I wrote a post a couple days ago about a complicated situation that took place across multiple platforms.
Two 5N.coms were purchased on GoDaddy auctions in early September, that person actually used a credit card that was no good.
That person sold the names to a Namepros member for $550, on Undeveloped. $190 less than they won the names at GoDaddy.T
That member then sold those names for $700 to Namepros member Draco on Namepros.
GoDaddy came and repossessed the names, leaving Draco out. Yesterday Joe Styler was able to get to all the questions on Namepros that took place over the long holiday weekend.
I commend Joe he took a lot of heat. Some things don’t have great visuals. Like a question I asked if GoDaddy would give Draco the name of the person who defrauded them?
Joe said no, and that Draco could always sue. The point I was making after that, was that I don’t think GoDaddy would ever do this, but a less reputable registrar could say look we are repossessing these names, the guy who initially bought them, he used a bad credit card, we can’t show you proof or tell you his name, but trust us it was bogus.
The thread got heated and then Reza from Undeveloped posted he would have Undeveloped refund the first member, the $550 he spent on Undeveloped, which he could give to Draco.
This situation leaves so many things open to speculation and makes you think deeply about who, and where you do business with.
@Joe Styler if there’s non-public information available around this case we’d love to receive it. You’ve been hinting to having more info on the case. Please do share privately.
Since the problem at hand seems to not going to be solved for Draco & ***, Undeveloped will take responsibility, not because we have to or are obliged to but because we want to.
We’ll refund **** today and take the hit for this situation to avoid individual domainers having to pay up. Marketplaces/Registrars should take responsibility for the payments they secure and never forward the bill to parties that have nothing to do with a certain fraudulent transaction.
Omer can then refund Draco and clear his name as he has nothing to do with the initial auction bidder outside of our platform.
I’d still advice Draco to pursue and potentially escalate this case just to make sure that the original auction bidder doesn’t get away with this so easily. Undeveloped will provide all information & data we have.
This is a one time action from us as we’re now cleaning up other peoples mess. Anyone that feels emboldened to try to abuse our generosity or marketplace in the future will be met with the full force & resources of Undeveloped and it’s legal team. Scammers beware.
Kind regards,
Reza
XYNames says
Meantime, GoDaddy continues to be very anti-customer service oriented.
https://www.namepros.com/threads/avoid-godaddy-hosting-company-they-will-shut-down-all-your-sites-if-even-one-trademark-claim-is-made.1110373/
Josh says
This was very nice of your company. I wish you would clear up your coverage TOS in the other articles comment section here at thedomains.com as well. Thank you
On a side note I suggest Undeveloped.com no longer allows the listing of newly won domains at auction until it is safe to assume no charge back is possible. Would be wise, no? A nice extra step to make buyers feel comfortable as well.
Doron Vermaat says
Great gesture of Undeveloped.com which surely will go a long way ?
mike says
Godaddy is a dictatorship, be careful, any domains that are secondary on that exchange are at risk.
Godaddy has gotten to big to care, they will just stomp you.
This is godaddys fault, because bidder fraud is rampant on their exchange.
Undaunt says
Shame on Godaddy for acting like they can do as they will.If i had spare money and this happened to me.I will make sure to expose their bad practice taking a domain name out of your customers account and talking bull.Moving out my names in batches.If name.com or dynadot can do a similar DDC for customers ro help with renewals.I am in.
Mark John Thorpe says
Namepros is definitely not what it used to be.
I avoid Namepros completely.
VR says
What did Namepros have to do with this? This was a godaddy issue.
mike says
Only thing namepros did was bring the situation to light.
Should we be visitng DNFORUM, where do these clowns come from?
Even Adam Dicker uses namepros, how humbling is that?
James Donoghue says
“Even Adam Dicker uses namepros”
that’s probably why Namepros isn’t the place it used to be.
Ron says
Ummmm, NamePros is the social network of the industry. Everyone is there. Everyone uses it. Even those claiming they don’t still browse it without logging in, like the “cool kids” who claim they don’t use Facebook/Twitter because they only use IG. Suuuuure, you do. LOL
john andrews says
That’s not true at all, Ron.
VR says
What does that have to with anything? Namepros is by far the leader in community for the domain industry, with no other place close.