I have received a report that all Chinese Premium four letter .org domain names have been registered.
Chinese Premium domain names are those without a Vowel or the letter “v”
According to registrarstats.com .Org had a net gain of over 12,000 domain registrations on Sunday which is a strong number for a Sunday but many of these were registered today as well.
I’m also told that very few Western LLLL.org remain to be registered.
For the record I did not register any of them.
Xavier Lemay says
Thank you for sharing!
I was not excepting LLLL Chinese .org to sell out!
Someone is trying to own the .org LLLL space!
Joseph Peterson says
How long until the headline reads:
“100% CHIP Buyout in .HORSE and .FISH”
?
Koosah says
I think it is more likely to happen in .fish as they are far easier to flip than a .horse!!
Koosah says
.fish and chips sounds better than .horse and chips!!
I’ll stop I promise.
Joseph Peterson says
True. Fish and CHIPs can be flipped with a spatula.
Xavier Lemay says
Watch out for .Biz ……..
frank meester says
I think you are right .
I just reg these ,just incase
crrs.biz
dols.biz
fcck.biz
qqqo.biz
limb.biz
zfss.biz
xfyf.biz
lhlb.biz
gdzs.biz
my .Org
jgjg.org
Shane says
There will be books written about this regardless of how it turns out. Too many great stories behind the stories not to. Just waiting for the ending to be written
Joseph Peterson says
We agree on that. Actually, 1 of the first domains I ever registered was the title of a book yet to be written on the domain industry. No good book about the contemporary scene can be written yet – not without a decade’s distance, I don’t think, to bring the subject into focus.
Joseph Peterson says
Michael Cyger is censoring my comments at DomainSherpa. Clearly some viewpoints on this topic are not allowed to be heard.
Joseph Peterson says
Shane Cultra also deletes and blocks comments on his blog. Even innocuous stuff.
Domain Shame says
Never like Cyger you have a far superior voice anyway Joseph.
DN says
what is the price of a good NLL.ORG right now ? is it a good time to sell it ?
Ron says
Anyone see that no vowel 4L.net are selling for a minimum of $250 now, these were dropping like flies a few months ago.
DNSelect says
Everything seems to be working according to extension hierarchy.
#1 .COM
#2 .NET
#3 .ORG
No way I’m touching .BIZ or .INFO though.
Joseph Peterson says
@DNSelect,
That’s probably a bit simplistic. Let’s not forget that .CN and even .CC have been selling in the Chinese domain market for awhile.
There are also some nTLDs that would seem to have some appeal in China. How much of those registrations are driven by speculators in or outside China, though, remains to be seen.
Clearly, China has a strong preference for .COM. After that, the hierarchy is hard to determine. Speculation has muddied the waters. So it’s difficult to tell which purchases will lead to anything beyond short-lived trader-to-trader speculation.
Aeroname says
//Clearly, China has a strong preference for .COM. After that, the hierarchy is hard to determine.
Hierarchy, based on Chinese auctions prices analysis:
1. .com
2. .net
3. .cc/.cn
4. everything else
DomainInvestor says
The insanity continues or should it be called “Linsanity”
watch what happens when liquidity dries up. They won’t be able to give this crap away for free.
Mike Sallese says
I think it could be called Chipsanity!
@domains says
The appetite seems to be endless… and the budgets $$$…
@domains says
What will happen with all the tens (hundreds?) of thousands of domains in these buyouts? Parked and then what? October/November of next year will be interesting to watch what gets renewed and what doesn’t. Do all these new investors know they have to pay an annual renewal fee each year or lose their domains… lol.
Matt says
The joke will be on all the “domain investors” who get suckered into buying these .ORGs. If you’re banking on the Chinese to buy them, you obviously have no clue about the Chinese.
Oren says
They are being tracked here, so can’t be all that big of a joke
http://www.chaomi.cc/
LLLLdomain says
They are being tracked here, so can’t be all that big of a joke llll domain 4 letter domain
four domain
http://www.theluckydomain.com/
ben pedri says
Matt ,the chinese bought out the last 8500 while we were all asleep here,so their appetite is just fine. I saw signs of this the last 2 days while accumulating them every time I got 20-30 in my cart by the time I paid 2-3 were gobbled up ,This reminds my of program trading ,but for domains not stock. Also If history repeats itself I consider these sales in strong hands ,They are not really selling scale up We are.Quads are still out there{basically getting in the needle in a haystack stage but they will be gone by tues or wed. I see nothing else at the moment thats looks like a clean out,It will take a few years for some tlds not worth the cost to carry.
Ps. anyone know what N13.org is worth I forgot where it came from but I figure what the heck ,Just renewed it
Matt says
Right, they bought out the rest to create fake demand. Ever heard of “pump and dump”? There is no end user value for .ORGs in China. People need to do a little more research than looking at a graph.
Domain Shame says
Why because you say so ? seems like you missed out just another typical poster on a blog that missed out on 5N.com six ncom 4L.net those that missed the opportunity, say oh it’s all a fad it’s all going to crash and burn people have made fucking millions off of all these fads those who have missed out are left to comment on a domain blog.
Joseph Peterson says
@DomainShame,
Please favor us with a list of the people who “have made fucking millions off of” LLLL.net and LLLL.org domains.
Domainers are getting ruder and stupider by the day. These days, if somebody holds an opinion different from yours, all you need do is say that that other guy didn’t make millions and must be jealous.. Much easier than considering what the person says and presenting facts to disprove him.
Come on, Domain Shame, don’t engage in such a lazy ad hominem.
Domain Shame says
@joseph that was not ad hominem I absolutely believe that most blog posters that have not participated in buyouts are jealous absolutely jealousy I don’t know any other way to call it. Because Joseph if there not participating and not tracking what’s going on then they clearly have a less then knowledgeable position on the topic.
Joseph Peterson says
@Domain Shame,
You may choose to believe that everybody who isn’t jumping aboard the latest buyout bandwagon – LLLL.org or NNNN.club or NNNNNN.com or whatever – is jealous or ignorant. But as far as I can see, that’s just a crowbar to bash over the head of people who express skepticism or whose domain buying patterns don’t follow the herd in mid stampede.
Jealousy? If Group A makes money selling 5 or 12-digit numerics, must it follow that Group B ISN’T making money by selling domains of other kinds? Nonsense! The sales charts show what’s selling, and they include plenty of non-Chinese inventory. Auction houses haven’t seen any decline (as far as I can detect) in the bidding for non-Chinese domains. So why would Group B be jealous? They also have money to spend … and are buying domains in other asset classes. If they wanted to buy hundreds or thousands of LLLL.org’s or LLLLL.com’s or NNN.ninja’s, then they would. They simply choose to acquire other kinds of domains.
Ignorance? Anybody who likes may call me stupid; and (indeed) I expect to be wrong in a large percentage of cases. That’s partly what domaining is about – experimentation and risk taking.
For my part, I have never said that people who trade domains of this Chinese sort are wrong. But it’s silly to assume that 1 strategy suits everybody equally. To make real money in this sector and minimize your risk, I think you’d need to be positioned to make quick flips – ideally in bulk – and get out from underneath the newer categories almost the day they’re born. Whoever’s stuck holding the hot potato loses.
That game doesn’t interest me. Branding, language, communication, publishing, development – that’s why I’m in the domain industry. This Chinese market speculation is simply irrelevant to my career ambitions; so I choose to focus elsewhere.
Plus, I have some ethical qualms about participating in bubbles and pyramid schemes. Am I saying that’s what this is? No, not entirely. Am I saying other people are unethical. No, not necessarily. What I mean is this: I want to buy domains I believe in personally or which I can sell to people who will really benefit from using them. That dimension seems to be lacking in this current craze. Trading only to trade seems rather hollow in comparison helping a client select a brand name. That’s just personal taste.
Domain Shame says
@joseph you seem to be making this like I was talking to you I wasn’t talking to you I was talking to the other anonymous poster who posted trust me and no I don’t trust anonymous people I’ve read enough of your stuff to know what you do I’d like to trade I don’t think anything better than trading for me. holding names and somebody might come along and buy 10 years from now that’s fantastic for you but that’s not my game.
I am more interested in why Cyger and Cultra don’t publish your comments you obviously are knowledgeable.
Joseph Peterson says
Oh, I’ll have more to say about Cyger and Cultra later. No need for them to publish my comments on their sites. Better to write articles about them on mine.
Anon says
They can have ’em all for all I care. Some LL.org and LLL.org are worth speculating in if you’ve got the right letters in the right positions — I’ve sold a few — but LLLL.org is a crapshoot. I wish them all the best with their speculating and trading over there on the other side of the planet.
Acro says
Just turned down an offer of $6k for a NON “Chinese premium letters” LLLL .org. Expecting to sell for five figures before the end of the year.
Moral of the story: Keep eating the chips while we eat the steak. 😀
ben pedri says
Would you share the domain your talking about.
Acro says
@Ben – Not until after it’s sold.
mansour says
I put the domain name 8-8.org for auction at 4.cn it was sold for 200 RMB or about $60.00 USD Chinese do not buy .ORG folks.
Oren says
And nobody likes a hyphen
Ron says
I think you got a good price at $60 for a hyphen and .org in the same domain, if anything it is almost bullish
The 4L.org have many people lined up ready to pay 2x Reg fee for them
Domain Shame says
Selling for $55 on Namepros. At least in a few threads.
SoFreeDomains says
Thanks a lot Mike for mentioning that you did not register the available LLLL.org. That’s why some of us cannot do without your blog.
snowdragon says
Recently me also turned down 1k usd offer for an international premium LLLL.org folks. ?map.org is name.
Jonathan says
Noted that all the character examples have gone:
(八 equals 8) 八8.com – 八8八.com – 8八8.com guess it makes sense if they are accessible via mobiles, not that I know.
Luc Biggs says
Since the LLLL.org chip buyout, they are already trading (see Chaomi.cc) in the $45-$60 range. And that is before a COMPLETE LLLL.org buyout. Within a few weeks, they will be around 1/3 of current LLLL.net chip levels.
444.ninja says
nobody buys NNN ntlds 🙁
444.ninja just for $44
Joseph Peterson says
Don’t worry. That sale probably ranks surprisingly high among .NINJA aftermarket sales to date.
Acro says
That’s a great domain, 3 x “death” by a ninja 😀
jibberish says
cyger and shane DO censor comments highly. even comments that are very relevant to the topic. what a shame!