I got this email from Frank Schilling’s DomainNameSales.com that they are expanding their 25 person sales team once again.
A little over 2 years ago we put out the message that DomainNameSales.com was hiring and a bunch of people made a life changing move to the Cayman Islands and join the company.
Well DomainNameSales.com is hiring again and they asked us to let people know they are looking for “aggressive/talented sales people and they do NOT have to have industry experience”
“If your looking for a great opportunity and are willing to relocate to the Cayman Islands here is another chance:
Inside Sales Representative – RELOCATION REQUIRED
“We are a fast growing technology company seeking FULL TIME, hungry, talented, well versed, technically savvy sales people to SELL our products all over the world.
Requirements:
Minimum 3 years direct sales experience (FLEXIBLE DEPENDING ON PROFICIENCY IN SALES)
Excellent verbal and written communication skills
Experience with in person or on the phone sales
Proficient in Word and Excel a Plus.
Must be zealous, resourceful with spirited initiative
Well mannered, well spoken, professional, ethical and honest
Must be able to start immediately
Multi lingual a plus!
Please Read:
Candidate is required to move to the Cayman Islands. Please provide us with a resume, and a basic description of your daily sales activities rather than a cover letter including average number of sales per month, number of phone calls per day, average sale price etc.
A tech background is preferred, however automotive or real estate will be considered. A successful candidate must have a good base of computer experience, the ability to close phone sales and to manage an inquiry stream/lead pipeline using our custom CRM system.
Compensation is based on experience and results with a base salary, benefits and aggressive commission structure.
Role:
Responding to leads that are world wide by all means necessary: Phone, Email, Skype etc.
Creating value
Cross Selling
Negotiating
Communicate with clients on a daily basis
Not afraid to pick up the phone and make a sale
Manage a large pipeline of opportunities, and clients
Handle large volume of inbound/outbound phone calls and emails
To apply please send your resume to: JOBS@DomainNameSales.com””
Good luck to everyone that applies
Having dealt with their VP of Sales as a customer, I imagine working for him as an employee would be fairly shitty. Even his coworkers complain to me about his pushiness and arrogance.
I am going for this.
Good Luck
Aggressor.org #domain #forsale extremely cheap!
🙂
Best regards,
Russell
Yet remarkably we haven’t lost a single performing broker and have grown to a team approaching 50. We must be doing something right. Welcome all candidates.
Frank, you are certainly doing something right. Don’t let that blind you to the things you and your employees are obviously doing wrong. The money you spend masks some of money you waste.
Any brokers you’ve lost would be classified as “non-performing” by their boss . Self fulfilling prophecy? Sounds to me like a guy might go to work for your VP, work his or her ass off, question Jeff Gabriel’s judgment one day, and end up fired with a bad review by the boss.
God knows I’ve seen that happen elsewhere! During my decade in the Navy, I worked for or alongside good managers and bad managers. Even with bad managers – mandatory CPR on a suicide corpse, anybody? I knew that boss – the U.S. Navy got its job done. Doing something right is no argument against having a bad manager.
DNS has a lot going for it. And you’ve given the platform a big budget. Jeff Gabriel is inept, but he isn’t inept enough to sink the ship. You’ll hire people. Good people included. They’ll suffer through a bad boss if they have to. And other talented people won’t apply at all because they’ve met the guy!
Fact is, at least 1 of Jeff’s high-ranking coworkers told me what I already knew – that Gabriel’s an arrogant a$$hole who pushes people around – a problem he literally asked me to help you see. Frank, you hired them both. Don’t listen to me; I’m just an ex-customer. Don’t ask the other dissatisfied customers either. Talk to the people you trusted enough to hire – people who’re forced to work with Jeff Gabriel. Ask around the office to learn the truth, Frank.
Jeff handled one of my domains on DNS, and scored me a killer number, he made it look easy, that is my experience with him though.
I agree sometimes some buyers can be total sensitive jerks, and expect you to kiss ass, and take their verbal assault, you really need to bite your tongue to respond because you represent the platform as a whole, best to just reply with one of the in house generic responses. I know it seems harder than it seems, but the generic response ending the discussion, is more of a piss off than some stupid back, and forth engagement with a time waster.
@Tom,
Jeff may be a great salesman. In that case, he should act as one of DNS’s brokers where he might excel instead of going out of his way to make enemies within the industry AND his coworkers. As VP, he seems to be the wrong tool for the job.
Frank is crazy to put him in a position where he affects customer relations with domain investors who self-broker. Buffoonishly butting into negotiations? Compromising the neutrality of DNS as a whole? Contemptuously ordering us to phrase replies HIS way? Demanding compliance or else threatening expulsion? Ignoring our concerns without so much as a reply? This guy affects PR … and definitely not in a good way.
Since some of Jeff’s colleagues at DNS can’t stand him either … and other domain investors like Konstantinos Zournas tell me he’s rudely tried to push them around as well, it’s clear to me that Gabriel is a problem – both internally a manager / colleague AND externally as a representative of Uniregistry. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a good salesman, but he should be kept away from customers who didn’t sign up for DNS to be ordered around by a meddlesome petty tyrant.
I do agree with you, Tom, that biting one’s tongue can be a good thing for sales negotiations as for everything else. Still, there are times when a stern tone produces better results; and I prefer to interact with individuals personally rather than with robotic templates. I find most people appreciate personal communications. That sincerity is more respectful.
In my view, domain owners ought to be allowed to choose what works best for them on a case by case basis. There might be extreme cases warranting intervention, but Jeff Gabriel isn’t waiting for those. Clearly,he resents domainers who self-broker. He feels some need to assert control even over tiny incidents. And he’s prepared to alienate customers, turning well wishers into vocal enemies for the next 5-10 years, simply to appease his own ego.
Perhaps DNS is hiring more sales staff in anticipation of curtailing self-brokerage. I’m sure Jeff Gabriel would like the freeloaders to go away and surrender control of their leads to him.
If you have ever been in a managerial position, you will know that you have to be pushy at times.
Frank Schilling y proved many times his a liar. He is trying to portray himself as a nice guy but if you take a look at facts you see something different.
How anyone could work for Frank Schilling is beyond my understanding.
Just increase your self esteem and you will not want to for him.
They have been spamming me all the time, even though I asked about a domain once and some years ago.
I met people who has the same experience with them. They are just spammers.
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Hi XXXX,
My name is Brian Harbin, and I am a domain broker with a client that recently received an offer for this domain name. You had made an offer back in November 2011, and I wanted to a moment to check in with you before the name is committed. Please call or email me if there is any interest on your end. They are looking to make a decision shortly.
Thanks,
Review & Respond Online
Brian Harbin
1.904.316.7232
After reading the comments and understanding everyone’s point of view it really just seems like a normal case of achieving success, producing results and having some people dislike the way you go about it. As long as the methods are ethical and are producing results that is truly what matters.
It does not matter what industry you are in, not everyone is going to like you and not everyone going to approve of everything you do. But if you go into something wanting everyone to support and like you then you will not be focusing on the important perspective.
Still I do agree with Joseph’s point of just simply analyzing what you are doing right as a company, what you can improve on and what are things that are being conducted wrong that have to change. One thing that will always hold true is room for improvement. Best of luck on getting new hires Frank thanks for the ongoing with wisdom!
– Will
@Will,
Should the VP of a company order his customers about?
Should the VP of a company insist that his customers behave like his employees – explicitly?
Should a domain market remain neutral; or should it meddle unasked in negotations, taking the side of a buyer against a domain owner who wishes to keep his domain?
Should buyers who are annoyed at you for not selling be enabled to complain to Frank Schilling’s company and use his VP as a weapon to intimidate you? And ban you for not doing as he says?
Will, this is not a “normal case of achieving success”. This is improper conduct. Unless domain owners have asked for DNS brokers to handle negotiations, then we have a reasonable expectation for Frank Schilling’s employees not to jump into our negotiations unasked, dictating how we respond, making threats, and acting as the buyer’s weapon.
If you want a neutral market place, if you want to handle your own interactions with buyers, if you dislike being bullied, then DomainNameSales has failed you.
If you want to work for the bully, then apply to become a DNS broker.
Joseph
I can tell you that when Jeff was at Sedo he was my broker and he sold a lot of domain names for me.
He was always professional and extremely helpful and went out of his way to go the extra mile for his customers.
Mike,
That may well be. But think of it this way:
Say you’re responding to a buyer yourself. Would you want some broker boss – completely uninvited – to take the buyer’s side, order you to phrase replies to the buyer HIS way, insist that you behave like his employee, demand an apology (to himself), ignore everything you say, and finally expel you for not complying with his whims?
Correct me if I’m wrong, Mike; but you wouldn’t tolerate that. No domain owner should have to.
Fortunately, at Sedo that doesn’t happen. There Jeff’s job was to sell domains for people who had asked him to sell. But at DomainNameSales, Frank has empowered Jeff Gabriel to harass those of us who self-broker.
Sedo still recognizes domain owners as valuable customers. Both Jeff Gabriel and Frank Schilling believe domainers must walk and talk like Uniregistry “representatives”. Even though we didn’t sign up at DNS to work for Uniregistry bosses and aren’t being paid to sell their brand, Jeff and Frank expect us to take orders like employees – not be listened to like customers. Jeff Gabriel said so to me point blank.
Well, folks, are you independent domain owners with rights? Customers who deserve respect? Or are you – what Jeff Gabriel and Frank Schilling think you’re spineless enough to be – unpaid, subservient Uniregistry representatives, duty-bound to take orders, who will accept heavy-handed meddling in your negotiations?
Look around. Nearly every domain blog is partly paid for by Frank Schilling and Uniregistry. If domainers aren’t careful, they WILL be reduced to Uniregistry reps. If you put all your eggs in Frank Schilling’s basket, then when his VP pushes you around, you will have given him power over your portfolio. Then you won’t dare stand up for yourself.
How much does a Steak cost on the island? When I Google “Any cows on the CaymanIslands”, I get a list of vegetarian restaurants. If you’re not already rich, moving to a place with no middleclass, means get ready to ride a scooter, use a laundrymat, and go on the fish diet.
RibEye steaks costing $10/pound here in NorthCarolina might be $100/pound in the Caymans. A 18oz tray of fresh blueberries here costs nearly $9 dollars. It probably costs a fortune to eat a big bowl of strawberries & blueberries every day for breakfast in the Caymans. Could wind up spending entire off-hours walking along the road, carrying bags of charcoal on my shoulder just to grill beef. FantasyIsland becomes more like EscapeFromAlcatraz. Sort of a wuss, I’ll ride a motorcycle from DC to NYC no problem, but refuse to go to any airport, especially to a place with no cows. Last time I flew on an airplane was 1986 in the 8thGrade, DC to SteamboatSprings, Colorado to do a little skiing. At the ski-rental shop, the SpaceShuttle Challenger exploded on television 1/28/1986.
Steve Brady, you will never eat better and not spend a dime!! Frank feeds his people better then you’ll ever eat in North Carolina and I say this from experience. I went to Cayman at 205 and left at 235. If you think you can sell this is the company to work for. Closers rise to the top at any company.
I would move just for the food 🙂
https://twitter.com/ChefRemyCayman/status/593139487271620609
I’d accept a Janitor position to get near that buffet if they’ll add a ham carving station w/ infrared heat lamps. I can work with a mop and think about domains at the same time. To overcome apprehension of flying, I’ll get to the airport, take two Viagra and DEMAND a pat-down.
Joseph
I really don’t know what your talking about at this point
It seems you have an addenda based on the volume of comments and the nature of the comments.
Now as to your comment:
“Nearly every domain blog is partly paid for by Frank Schilling and Uniregistry. If domainers aren’t careful, they WILL be reduced to Uniregistry reps. If you put all your eggs in Frank Schilling’s basket, then when his VP pushes you around, you will have given him power over your portfolio”
That is insulting.
My main registrar is Hexonet which I have made no secret about if you ever watched me on sherpa or ever looked up a bunch of domains i own
About 90% of my domains are at Hexonet.
Nothing against Uniregistry, but I was with Hexonet before the registrar at Uniregistry got started and I’m a loyal guy so they have about 90%+ of my domains.
You might notice and otherwise i’ll tell you Hexonet has never spent $1 on advertising on thedomains.com
My parking is split between Sedo and Internettraffic.com.
You might notice Sedo has never advertised on thedomains.
No one buys me with an ad.
I could give a fuck about the ads.
The ads are there because if I spend a ton of time on the blog I might as well make a few bucks on it if I can.
I can’t even begin to tell you how many emails i have had asking me how much do you charge to write about something only to be told we don’t charge to write or not write about posts.
I have no idea of the inner workings of Domainnamesales.com but neither do I have any knowledge of Sedo, nor Rook Mediam DomainHoldings nor Google, Yahoo, Netflix or any of a million companies.
I sell the vast majority of my domains on my own through direct contacts or out platform but we work with every broker.
The one thing I do know that after my last post a couple of years ago about job openings at Uniregistry, many people called or wrote me and thanked me for posting about the job opening, as they had applied and gotten a job down in the Cayman’s & they were thrilled to be working there, and couldn’t wait for me to come down so they could shower me with free drinks and food or do anything to thank me.
All of these comments are well beyond the topic of the post which was about a job opening as many people do need jobs and working in the Cayman’s selling domains doesn’t suck.
Its not a post about domainnamesales, or Uniregistry or Frank or Jeff and no further comments well off the topic will be allowed.
Maybe Andrew who you write for will let you write a post on domainnamewire.com about your complaints
@Mike,
If you feel insulted, then you’ve misunderstood me. Mutual respect between us should be taken for granted at this point. I’m well aware that you use Hexonet. Yes, I know you can’t be bought with an ad. People who VIEW the ads can be, however; that’s why advertisers advertise, after all. So I’m not accusing you of being bribed, by any means; rather, I’m inviting domainers (who are being bombarded by Uniregistry ads everywhere) to slow down and be careful.
Keep in mind, Uniregistry has a banner ad at DNW (where I write) as well. There’s nothing wrong with taking sponsors. But I can point out widespread advertising, can’t I? The point is how widespread the ads are – not that they’re here at TheDomains, but that they’re all over.
My sense of things is that Uniregistry is using an ad for job openings to distract domainers from the negative publicity they’re facing elsewhere online at the moment. And that’s why I’m connecting the 2 topics – so that they can’t get away with what I perceive to be sleight of hand.
Also, in case any of my domainer colleagues are genuinely considering going to work for Jeff Gabriel, then I consider it only fair to tell my peers what my experience with him has been, what I’ve heard from other domain owners, and what his coworkers have told me about him. People can make up their own minds. Personally, I’d never work with the guy and I’d warn any friend about him.
If you don’t know what I’m talking about, Mike, then it might be a good idea to ask me to clarify rather than to ask me to shut up. It affects you.
Joseph
I’m saying we do have a comment policy and if you didn’t see it here it is again:
Comment Policy:
TheDomains.com welcomes reader comments. Please follow these simple rules:
Stay on topic
Refrain from personal attacks
Avoid profanity
Links should be related to the topic of the post
No spamming. Listing domains, products, or services will get the comment deleted
We reserve the right to remove comments if we deem it necessary.
Mike,
Are you suggesting you will “meddle” in communications here, and tell people how to behave, like some arrogant power-hungry monster?
Uh… yep.
@John,
What Mike is emphasizing is fair. The policy he’s enforcing is for the best. And I have become a bit carried away here, I admit – even if I do stand by everything I’ve said.
But Mr. Berryhill, you’re more intelligent than your comment just now. Mike may set whatever standards he likes for vetting comments on his own blog. In the same way, domain owners should be able to apply their own standards when responding to purchase inquiries.
Market places interfering in negotiations without any rules – that’s very different from Mike filtering comments based on rules, and you know it. As a lawyer, you observe distinctions; so when you blur lines like this, it looks disingenuous.
Res ipsa loquitur.
Also, please note if you are any good at catching dogs. The Cayman police K-9 unit ran off again…
https://caymannewsservice.com/2015/10/police-dog-escapes-from-west-bay-compound/
And what you can find on a day of beachcombing is unmatched anywhere else…
https://caymannewsservice.com/2015/09/125k-of-cocaine-washes-up-in-east-end/
Joseph last and final time your comments have nothing to do with the post
Your statement
” Yes, I know you can’t be bought with an ad”
is very inconsistent with you previous comment
” Nearly every domain blog is partly paid for by Frank Schilling and Uniregistry. If domainers aren’t careful, they WILL be reduced to Uniregistry reps. If you put all your eggs in Frank Schilling’s basket, then when his VP pushes you around”
Its the weekend and there is football on all weekend long and if you think I’m going to police your personal policy issues with a company in the space while your a regular writer for another blog in the space where you can express those views, your greatly mistaken.
So with that comments are cut off the post because you’re not respecting my request to not go off topic, not to go rouge and I’m not spending my weekend to monitor your’e off base comments.
With that said Go Gators