The domain name China.info, arugably one of the better .info’s you can get dropped yesterday and none of the big drop catchers got the domain.
The domain was caught by the domain name registrar Hexonet.net, which has a backorder program.
Some domain name registrars like Godaddy.com and Dyandot.com have backorder programs that operate separate from the big drop catchers that typically use several registrar credentials to grab dropping domain name.
china.info belonged to the Chinese nic the registry for the .cn ccTLD
I reached out to Hexonet for more information and they confirmed that they had in fact registered the domain and 16 people are in the auction.
We will let you know the results of the auction once it completes.
todd says
@Mike
When there is a name that you really want will you place a backorder at all the possible drop catchers to increase your odds of getting the name?
Since you have tons of experience with the drops which would you say are the top 5 backorder services?
Domenclature.com says
@Berkens,
There’s a pattern to the madness.
Drop catching is an insider job. It is wrong, and MUST be stopped. It’s not by serendipity as you think. Actually, I’m sure you know better.
Michael Berkens says
Domen
I don’t get where you are coming from these domain names drop for nonpayment of renewal fees then its a race to see who can register it, first come, first served
what is your issue?
Domenclature.com says
My issue is that:
Until a name is completely deleted, it should belong to the previous “Registrant”, and any proceeds from it should go to that Registrant, after late fees.
A name should completely drop, and become “unregistered”, before anybody can register it.
There should not be any “drop catching service”, everybody should have equal access to a dropped name.
Why do you need a drop-catcher? Don’t you know how to register a name on your own?
Everybody should be a drop-catcher who is interested in a dropped name. It’s simple.
Do you really think these names are caught by speed, or chance? NO!
Somebody is on the inside assigning’em.
Michael Berkens says
Todd
Namejet.com
snapnames.com
dropcatch.com
backorderzone.com
pheenix.com
I’m not in the china.info auction
todd says
Thanks
Alexander Schubert says
china.info belonged to the Chinese nic (the ccTLD nic) – I assume they got it early on as countries where allowed to reserve their country names initially – then after 13 years they realized that they do not really USE it – and disposed it. Who else than a Government body would throw away such an valuable item?
Sameh says
I was really surprised that Afilias let it drop. I thought they are going to reserve it.
Michael Berkens says
Domen
“Until a name is completely deleted, it should belong to the previous “Registrant”, and any proceeds from it should go to that Registrant, after late fees.
A name should completely drop, and become “unregistered”, before anybody can register it.”
That is what happens in a free drop like this one, the domain is deleted and becomes available to be registered by anyone on a first come first served basis which is not the same thing with certain registrars that run an inhouse auction where the domain never drops like Netsol and Namejet.com and Godaddy does with its own registrations.
Of course if no one back orders a dropping NetSol name at Namejet or buys a deleting domain in a Godaddy auction, than those domains get deleted as well and become available on a 1st com, 1st served basis.
Domenclature.com says
@Berkens,
I do make the distinction, but not the exception. You’ve emphasized the difference between the Netsol, Godaddy in house type, from ones such as the China.info, and the one whereby your domains got clawed back by the court the other day, however, I am against all of it. Any domain that shows continuation of years, for example, a domain got registered in 1998, and never shows to have been dropped and deleted, belongs to the original registrant, and any proceeds from its sale, or even the domain itself, should still inure to the first Registrant, or his/her assignees; a domain name MUST completely drop, and a reasonable pass before it can be available again for Registration by a new entity, in order to pass the test.
No, Berkens, the timing, and catching of those names are organized, orchestrated, and appropriated; it is not first come, first served, because you would have been catching them all. Nobody is faster than you in anything, even tho you look so tame!
Michael Berkens says
Domen
If you feel strongly about the issue I would encourage you to go to the ICANN meeting next week in LA and bring the issue to the board.
ICANN has no rules on how drops must be handled and each registrar can handle it anyway they want.
I don’t like it either but that’s the rules until it changes and bitching to me is not going to get it changed
Domenclature.com says
WOW! A blogger admits that he maybe the only one visiting his site!
I thought the whole world rendezvoused here?
Domenclature.com says
@Berkens,
“If you feel strongly about the issue I would encourage you to go to the ICANN meeting next week in LA and bring the issue to the board.
ICANN has no rules on how drops must be handled and each registrar can handle it anyway they want”.
This issue is above ICANN, since they are a participant in the game. I believe Congress needs to take this one on, especially relative to Dot Com, Dot Net, and Dot Org.
Michael Berkens says
Domen
Ok Then go to your congressman.
Still nothing is going to change bitching to me, I’m not in charge
Domenclature.com says
@Berkens,
Yes, at least I got you to condemn the practice. You stated above that you don’t like it.
Now, there’s strength in numbers; I want you to help shed some light on this. This is the singular most important issue in domain names and numbers. We all have to do something about this. You could be a formidable force in bringing this about. If you are going to attend the ICANN 51 thing, carry the torch with you. Else, when you speak with your elite friends, let them know. As Louise once told me, “Berkens is the good guy”,lets go.
Michael Berkens says
Domen
I have condemned the process on the blog for years, chatted with ICANN Chairman of the Board, bitched and moaned more than anyone else you know.
Read the blog