Someone forward to me this statement that was made on a board alleging that Google engaged in a practice that methodically underpaid publishers.
We do not know who wrote the post, nor do we know if any of its is true.
However over the years a lot of “whistler blower” allegations have started just this way and as domainers we know our revenue from Google has gone well down, so I thought it was worth publishing as I didn’t want to be the guy who was given the paper and simply ignored such it.
Again we have no idea if the person purporting to be an ex-Google employee was one or if any of the claims made in this statement are true.
Google has denied the allegations made by the allegedly ex-employee here, calling it complete fiction and there statement appears below
With that said here is what appeared unedited by the alleged ex-employee:
The only thing I can say is from my own portfolio the revenue has gone down substantially over the year while Google continues to report ever increasing revenue:
I am a former Google employee and I am writing this to leak information to the public of what I witnessed and took part in while being an employee. My position was to deal with AdSense accounts, more specifically the accounts of publishers (not advertisers). I was employed at Google for a period of
several years in this capacity.Having signed many documents such as NDA’s and non-competes, there are many repercussions for me, especially in the form of legal retribution from Google. I have carefully planned this leak to coincide with certain factors in Google such as waiting for the appropriate employee turn around so that my identity
could not be discovered.To sum it up for everyone, I took part in what I (and many others) would consider theft of money from the publishers by Google, and from direct orders of management. There were many AdSense employees involved, and it spanned many years, and I hear it still is happening today except on a much wider scale.
No one on the outside knows it, if they did, the FBI and possibly IRS would immediately launch an investigation, because what they are doing is so inherently illegal and they are flying completely under the radar.It began in 2009. Everything was perfectly fine prior to 2009, and in fact it couldn’t be more perfect from an AdSense employees perspective, but something changed.
Google Bans and Ban Criteria
Before December 2012:
In the first quarter of 2009 there was a “sit-down” from the AdSense division higher ups to talk about new emerging issues and the role we (the employees in the AdSense division needed to play. It was a very long meeting, and it was very detailed and intense.
What it boiled down to was that Google had suffered some very serious losses in the financial department several months earlier. They kept saying how we “needed to tighten the belts” and they didn’t want it to come from Google employees pockets. So they were going to (in their words) “carry out extreme quality control on AdSense publishers”.
When one of my fellow co-workers asked what they meant by that.
Their response was that AdSense itself hands out too many checks each month to publishers, and that the checks were too large and that needed to end right away. Many of the employees were not pleased about this (like myself). But they were successful in scaring the rest into thinking it would be their jobs and their money that would be on the line if they didn’t participate.The meeting left many confused as to how this was going to happen.
What did they mean by extreme quality control? A few other smaller meetings occur with certain key people in the AdSense division that furthered the idea and procedure they planned on implementing.
There were lots of rumors and quiet talking amongst the employees, there was lots of speculations, some came true and some didn’t. But the word was that they were planning to cut off a large portion of publisher’s payments.
After that point there was a running gag amongst fellow co-workers where we would walk by each other and whisper “Don’t be evil, pft!” and roll our eyes.
What happened afterwards became much worse. Their “quality control” came into full effect. Managers pushed for wide scale account bans, and the first big batch of bans happened in March of 2009.
The main reason, the publishers made too much money. But something quite devious happened. We were told to begin banning accounts that were close to their payout period (which is why account bans never occur immediately after a payout). The purpose was to get that money owed to publishers back to
Google AdSense, while having already served up the ads to the public.This way the advertiser’s couldn’t claim we did not do our part in delivering their ads and ask for money back. So in a sense, we had thousands upon thousands of publishers deliver ads we knew they were never going to get paid for.
Google reaped both sides of the coin, got money from the advertisers, used the publishers, and didn’t have to pay them a single penny. We were told to go and look into the publishers accounts, and if any publisher had accumulated earnings exceeding $5000 and was near a payout or in the process of a payout, we were to ban the account right away and reverse the earnings back. They kept saying it was needed for the company, and that most of these publishers were ripping Google off anyways, and that their gravy train needed to end. Many employees were not happy about this.
A few resigned over it.
I did not. I stayed because I had a family to support, and secondly I wanted to see how far they would go.From 2009 to 2012 there were many more big batches of bans.
The biggest of all the banning sessions occurred in April of 2012.
The AdSense division had enormous pressure from the company to make up for financial losses, and for Google’s lack of reaching certain internal financial goals for the quarter prior. So the push was on. The employees felt really uneasy about the whole thing, but we were threatened with job losses if we didn’t enforce the company’s wishes. Those who voiced concerned or issue were basically ridiculed with “not having the company’s best interest in mind” and not being “team players”. Morale in the division was at an all-time low. The mood of the whole place changed quite rapidly. It no longer was a fun place to work.
The bans of April 2012 came fast and furious.
Absolutely none of them were investigated, nor were they justified in any way. We were told to get rid of as many of the accounts with the largest
checks/payouts/earnings waiting to happen. No reason, just do it, and don’t question it. It was heart wrenching seeing all that money people had earned all get stolen from them. And that’s what I saw it as, it was a robbery of the AdSense publishers. Many launched appeals, complaints, but it was futile because absolutely no one actually took the time to review the appeals or complaints. Most were simply erased without even being opened, the rest were deposited into the database, never to be touched again.Several publishers launched legal actions which were settled, but Google had come up with a new policy to deal with situations such as that because it was perceived as a serious problem to be avoided.
So they came up with a new policy.
After December 2012: The New Policy
The new policy; “shelter the possible problem makers, and fuck the rest” (those words were actually said by a Google AdSense exec) when he spoke about the new procedure and policy for “Account Quality Control”.
The new policy was officially called AdSense Quality Control Color Codes (commonly called AQ3C by employees). What it basically was a categorization of publisher accounts. Those publisher’s that could do the most damage by having their account banned were placed in a VIP group that was to be left
alone. The rest of the publishers would be placed into other groupings accordingly.
The new AQ3C also implemented “quality control” quotas for the account auditors, so if you didn’t meet the “quality control” target (aka account bans) you would be called in for a performance review.There were four “groups” publishers could fall into if they reached certain milestones.
They were:
Red Group: Urgent Attention Required
Any AdSense account that reaches the $10,000/month mark is immediately flagged (unless they are part of the Green Group).
– In the beginning there were many in this category, and most were seen as problematic and were seen as abusing the system by Google. So every effort was taken to bring their numbers down.
– They are placed in what employees termed “The Eagle Eye”, where the “AdSense Eagle Eye Team” would actively and constantly audit their accounts and look for any absolute reason for a ban. Even if the reason was far-fetched, or unsubstantiated, and unprovable, the ban would occur. The “Eagle Eye Team” referred to a group of internal account auditors whose main role was to constantly monitor publisher’s accounts and sites.
– A reason has to be internally attached to the account ban. The problem was that notifying the publisher for the reason is not a requirement, even if the publisher asks. The exception: The exact reason must be provided if a legal representative contacts Google on behalf of the account holder.
– But again, if a ban is to occur, it must occur as close to a payout period as possible with the most amount of money accrued/earned.Yellow Group: Serious Attention Required
Any AdSense account that reaches the $5,000/month mark is flagged for review (unless they are part of the Green Group).
– All of the publisher’s site(s)/account will be placed in queue for an audit.
– Most of the time the queue is quite full so most are delayed their audit in a timely fashion.
– The second highest amount of bans occur at this level.
– A reason has to be internally attached to the account ban. Notifiying the publisher for the reason is not a requirement, even if the publisher asks. The exception: The exact reason must be provided if a legal representative contacts Google on behalf of the account holder.
– But again, if a ban is to occur, it must occur as close to a payout period as possible with the most amount of money accrued/earned.
Blue Group: Moderate Attention Required
Any AdSense account that reaches the $1,000/month mark is flagged for possible review (unless they are part of the Green Group).
– Only the main site and account will be place in queue for what is called a quick audit.
– Most bans that occur happen at this level. Main reason is that a reason doesn’t have to be attached to the ban, so the employees use these bans to fill their monthly quotas. So many are simply a random pick and click.
– A reason does not have to be internally attached to the account ban. Notifying the publisher for the
reason is not a requirement, even if the publisher asks.– But again, if a ban is to occur, it must occur as close to a payout period as possible with the most
amount of money accrued.Green Group: VIP Status (what employees refer to as the “untouchables”)
Any AdSense account associated with an incorporated entity or individual that can inflict serious damage onto Google by negative media information, rallying large amounts of anti-AdSense support, or cause mass loss of AdSense publisher support.
– Google employees wanting to use AdSense on their websites were automatically placed in the Green group. So the database contained many Google insiders and their family members. If you work or worked for Google and were placed in the category, you stayed in it, even if you left Google. So it
included many former employees. Employees simply had to submit a form with site specific details and their account info.– Sites in the Green Group were basically given “carte blanche” to do anything they wanted, even if they flagrantly went against the AdSense TOS and Policies. That is why you will encounter sites with AdSense, but yet have and do things completely against AdSense rules.
– Extra care is taken not to interrupt or disrupt these accounts.
– If an employee makes a mistake with a Green Level account they can lose their job. Since it seen as very grievous mistake.
New Policy 2012 Part 2:
Internal changes to the policy were constant. They wanted to make it more efficient and streamlined.
They saw its current process as having too much human involvement and oversight. They wanted it more automated and less involved.
So the other part of the new policy change was to incorporate other Google services into assisting the “quality control” program. What they came up with will anger many users when they find out. It involved skewing data in Google Analytics. They decided it was a good idea to alter the statistical data
shown for websites. It first began with just altering data reports for Analytics account holders that also had an AdSense account, but they ran into too many issues and decided it would be simpler just to skew the report data across the board to remain consistent and implement features globally.So what this means is that the statistical data for a website using Google Analytics is not even close to being accurate.
The numbers are incredibly deflated. The reasoning behind their decision is that if an individual links their AdSense account and their Analytics account, the Analytics account can be used to deflate the earnings automatically without any human intervention. They discovered that if an individual
had an AdSense account then they were also likely to use Google Analytics. So Google used it to their advantage.This led to many publishers to actively display ads, without earning any money at all (even to this day).
Even if their actual website traffic was high, and had high click-throughs the data would be automatically skewed in favor of Google, and at a total loss of publishers.
This successfully made it almost impossible for anyone to earn amounts even remotely close what individuals with similar sites were earning prior
to 2012, and most definitely nowhere near pre-2009 earnings.Other policy changes also included how to deal with appeals, which still to this day, the large majority are completely ignored, and why you will rarely get an actual answer as to why your account was banned and absolutely no way to resolve it.
The BIG Problem (which Google is aware of)
There is an enormous problem that existed for a long time in Google’s AdSense accounts. Many of the upper management are aware of this problem but do not want to acknowledge or attempt to come up with a solution to the problem.
It is regarding false clicks on ads. Many accounts get banned for “invalid clicks” on ads. In the past this was caused by a publisher trying to self inflate click-throughs by clicking on the ads featured on their website. The servers automatically detect self-clicking with comparison to IP addresses and other such
information, and the persons account would get banned for invalid clicking.But there was something forming under the surface. A competitor or malicious person would actively go to their competitor’s website(s) or pick a random website running AdSense and begin multiple-clicking and overclicking ads, which they would do over and over again. Of course this would trigger an invalid
clicking related ban, mainly because it could not be proven if the publisher was actually behind the clicking. This was internally referred to as “Click-Bombing”. Many innocent publishers would get caught up in bans for invalid clicks which they were not involved in and were never told about.This issue has been in the awareness of Google for a very long time but nothing was done to rectify the issue and probably never will be. Thus if someone wants to ruin a Google AdSense publishers account, all you would have to do is go to their website, and start click-bombing their Google Ads over and over
again, it will lead the servers to detect invalid clicks and poof, they get banned. The publisher would be completely innocent and unaware of the occurrence but be blamed for it anyways.Their BIG Fear
The biggest fear that Google has about these AdSense procedures and policies is that it will be publicly covered by their former publishers who were banned, and that those publishers unite together and launch an class-action lawsuit.They also fear those whose primary monthly earnings are from AdSense, because in many countries if a person claims the monthly amount to their tax agency and they state the monthly amount and that they are earning money from Google on a monthly basis, in certain nations technically Google can be seen as an employer. Thus, an employer who withholds payment of earnings, can be heavily fined by government bodies dealing with labor and employment. And if these government bodies dealing with labor and employment decide to go after Google, then it would get very ugly, very quickly ….. that is on top of a class-action lawsuit.
This description of our AdSense policy enforcement process is a complete fiction,. The color-coding and ‘extreme quality control’ programs the author describes don’t exist. Our teams and automated systems work around the clock to stop bad actors and protect our publishers, advertisers and users.
All publishers that sign up for AdSense agree to the Terms and Conditions of the service and a set of policies designed to ensure the quality of the network for users, advertisers and other publishers. When we discover violations of these policies, we take quick action, which in some cases includes disabling the publisher’s account and refunding affected advertisers.
Monaco.co says
Google banned my account just before payout limit in 2009
To say I was upset was an understatement, they never gave me any reason why ?
I hope google get investigated by the FBI, this has been a long time coming!
Louise says
That was enjoyable! Sounds believable! I inhaled it!
Being that Google just settled a class action against it for wage-fixing and hiring conspiracy, the claim, above, doesn’t sound off mark.
Apple, Google Settle Wage-Fixing and Hiring Conspiracy Case
http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/04/apple-google-settle-wage-fixing-hiring-case
Michael Marcovici says
Kind of interesting, in April 2012 in fact we had a clawback of a sixfigure amount on an account that worked flawless from 2007 on, never before was there any clawback. No idea if the whole story is true but at least it seems well researched.
PPC says
If you haven’t already, you better open up an AdSense account if you want to join the class action 😛
Joseph Peterson says
I, for one, believe it.
Why:
(1) Making such allegations in print exposes the author to libel lawsuits. Google has immense resources, which they can easily devote to prosecuting this individual. If his accusations are noticed (which is his stated intention), then Google’s motivation to retaliate with legal action would be clear. And if his accusations are false, then Google would be much more likely to squash them. Google certainly has the ability to identify this whistle blower, whatever he thinks he’s done to render himself anonymous. The author explicitly mentions fear of reprisals for having violated NDAs, and his written style bespeaks enough clarity of mind that I’d expect him to be aware of the libel lawsuit risk also. His only defense for attacking Google as he has done would be that he is telling the truth. I doubt any rational person would incur such a risk otherwise.
(2) Many people would (and do) insinuate in a vague way that Google is a corrupt monopoly that steals content and rigs markets in its favor. That impression is widespread, and critics can be found in abundance online for any large company. But Google bashing is typically vague. When it is long, it tends to be a diatribe, a tirade. Someone who has an ax to grind against Google or who simply suspects them of wrongdoing will often go overboard in a multi-paragraph screed that equates Google to the antichrist. More often, chatter from Google naysayers remains lazy, oblique, and short. But this whistle blower’s post is LONG. And it’s not a tirade. Instead, it is meticulously detailed; and the tone reads as though it is attempting to be objective. Clearly, he’s not a Google apologist; but he goes out of his way to explain (and partly excuse) employees who were complicit. If he had fabricated the story, why would he take the extra trouble to mitigate his criticism in this way?
(3) Verisimilitude. Writing fiction is hard. This account is very true to life, unfolding as if the speaker has actually experienced what he is writing about. He includes quotes from meetings, describes employee peer pressure and low morale, and elaborates on specifics of internal Google policies and terminology. Yes, there are some very talented writers of fiction in this world. But they’re less common than the opposite. Most fraudulent accusations don’t come from the pens of novelists. So that makes a false accusation as thorough and life-like as this one statistically unlikely.
(4) During my time in the nuclear submarine navy, I spent a lot of time analyzing (in a group setting) what are called “incident reports”. Submarines are like little separate ecosystems. Occasionally, things go wrong. Equipment breaks. Procedures are violated. Fraud occurs too. When it comes to underwater nuclear power plants, the U.S. Navy is obsessively opposed to mistakes. So anytime a boat messes up, the incident is the subject of publications, meetings, and training programs on every other boat. The ones we read most about were the incidents involving ethical lapses and corruption because they’re most dangerous when it comes to infecting the culture. So — like any other nuke — I’m familiar with those cases (rare but real) where a particular crew on a particular boat would get caught up in “group think” or peer pressure and unite in falsifying logs or skipping safety checks. Because each boat is a closed ecosystem, comparisons between good apples and bad apples function almost like a controlled experiment. It’s easy to pinpoint where things go wrong with a “command climate”. The symptoms are consistent: (A) obvious incentives to cut corners; (B) sugar-coating the policy; (C) veiled threats of messing things up for oneself and one’s peers if the behavior gets noticed by outsiders; (D) teasing of any reluctance; (E) low morale.
This whistle blower has mentioned every single one of those telltale signs. I HIGHLY doubt he’d know to fabricate such stuff — let alone be able to do so in a way that convinces me — unless the episodes he describes really occurred.
Joseph Peterson says
Oh, and
(5) The policy he describes makes sense. It’s significant that he’s not describing a policy that would go against Google’s interests. And he’s not being vague about their policy either. He has concretely outlined how Google has (allegedly) implemented their policy. To me it seems like exactly the implementation that would work best from all angles — enriching the company while carefully mitigating risks to the company both external and internal by differentiating between eligible victims and customers who pose a threat and by bribing knowledgeable employees to go with the flow. The policy sounds like it would work. Of course, that doesn’t prove that it’s factual. But a frabrication would either leave out this policy or risk making mistakes when theorizing about how Google might do such things. More detail means more chance of being exposed as a fraud. So it’s significant that the writer is not only detailed but has presented what looks to be a workable company policy.
Domenclature.com says
It appears that the allegation established a Prima Facie case (A fact presumed to be true unless it is disproved). At first blush, it coincides, time wise with absorption of Double-Click, which Google purchased in 2007.
See Google Buys DoubleClick for $3.1 Billion – http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/14/technology/14DoubleClick.html?_r=0
The sale brought to an end weeks of a bidding battle between Microsoft and Google. Microsoft had been trying to catch Google in the online advertising business, and the loss of Double-Click was a a major setback.
It would appear that Double-Click guys came in, and the things carefully adumbrated in this allegation ensued. I believe something changed within the period indicated. I have witnessed, and experienced some of the things alleged,
Therefore, the minimum is for the Feds to look into it, that way, if Google is innocent, they can be exonerated. And if they are not innocent, evil would be extinguished.
Konstantinos Zournas says
The last part made me believe it.
This is true in some cases in Greece. If it’s not true then the writer is someone that spent months learning and writing this.
“Their BIG Fear
The biggest fear that Google has about these AdSense procedures and policies is that it will be publicly covered by their former publishers who were banned, and that those publishers unite together and launch an class-action lawsuit.
They also fear those whose primary monthly earnings are from AdSense, because in many countries if a person claims the monthly amount to their tax agency and they state the monthly amount and that they are earning money from Google on a monthly basis, in certain nations technically Google can be seen as an employer. Thus, an employer who withholds payment of earnings, can be heavily fined by government bodies dealing with labor and employment. And if these government bodies dealing with labor and employment decide to go after Google, then it would get very ugly, very quickly ….. that is on top of a class-action lawsuit.”
Meyer says
I totally believe this person.
“Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”
Google knows they can do whatever they want without any recourse.
Sorry Michael. Google just blacklisted “TheDomains”.
(Just kidding. But, they might.)
xman says
Not surprising to me. I worked 4 years at Sedo in the german office. Left in 2008. Back then Google was exclusively delivering the ads for Sedo´s DomainParking. We used to run a so called fraud check on international parking clients. We would block the accounts and freeze the money in case we detected frauds and there were a lot of them. Usually 70/80% ctr or a huge chunk of the traffic from few IPs were the obvious easy targets but there were some pretty big fishes as well. As i said we used to block these accounts and freeze the money. We would not payout the parking client but the money was not refunded to the publisher. We also had some larger international clients who used to make up to 20.000 USD every month and these accounts were screaming fraud. Nearly all the traffic came from places in asia, china, hong kong, india, bangladesh and so on. We flagged these accounts as being fraudulent but the management gave them a pass. Quite well known names from the industry. Some still active today. Based on my experience I would say roughly a quarter of all the traffic back at that time was fake and fraudulent. But the publishers did not know that and they did not get the insight we had at that time.
xman says
Sorry, in my last posting I meant:
We would not payout the parking client but the money was not refunded to the advertiser.
cnn.si & fbnewswi.re says
WHO can (really) control the big companies and their multibillion off-shore accounts?
Grim says
“Don’t be evil.”
I’ve switched to using DuckDuckGo for Search for awhile now. It reminds me of how Google used to be.
Jon Schultz says
Great post, MHB, and excellent comment Joseph Peterson. Wish you would provide a link, Joseph, so I could see what services, if any, you provide.
Louise says
Hi xman
Someone needs to articulate this in an article, and I guess it has to be me! Please email me at the whosis address, if you feel like sharing.
Mike Berkens just wrote a post, entitled:
Uniregstry’s Affiliate Program To Date: 5,367 Clicks No Transactions, No Revenue
and I posed, since a large percentage of those clicks are likely paid clicks, even if it is humans behind the clicks, they likely are not in the market for a $20.00 domain! Mike Berkens commented on the thread:
No surprise to someone like you, who has worked behind the scenes, eh?
Now, Frank has announced UniRegistry’s browser, which will generate affiliate income. Frank is the master.
xman says
whois of which domain?
Louise says
FloatingStores.com
Kerry Shahan says
It would be interesting to hear from other publishers that lost their accounts. I realize that you sign up to their terms of service but when your banned they just lock you out and throw away the key. I’ve tried several times to appeal but your basically talking to a wall. I’ll have to check but pretty sure I lost my account in 2012 after being a publisher for well over 5 years prior.
Kerry Shahan says
Forgot to mention it was right before a payout!
Domenclature.com says
I wrote about this Google issue in 2012, also March of 2013, and you can see it here:
http://www.ricksblog.com/2013/03/who-is-hellen-keller/#.U2K_J_ldWuo
We all go on record.
Louise says
@ Joseph Peterson, those, “symptoms,” you mentioned are interesting! No wonder @ Jon Schultz said, “Great post, MHB, and excellent comment Joseph Peterson. Wish you would provide a link, Joseph, so I could see what services, if any, you provide.”
@ Kerry Shahan, there are two people ahead of you in these comments who experienced the same!
An update by the ex-employee, in response to Google’s response (via MarketingLand)
Google AdSense Leak – Part 2
pastebin.com/DXTu8Mcm
Louise says
http://pastebin.com/DXTu8Mcm
I’m going to lay low for a while . . .
Louise says
@ MIke, thanx for theDomains! Thanx, commenters, for the thoughtful replies! I feel like, I not only learn about business here, I learn about life, as I plot my course. Not to mention the entertainment value! 🙂
bnalponstog says
More smoking guns… will other outlets pick up this story?
Kerry Shahan says
One thing I don’t understand about this is that if Google is throwing away their publishers then wouldn’t that be outcasting the hand that feeds them in terms of driving traffic to google ads? It seems extremely counter productive unless it was just a short term plan to save money by reducing publishers. Can anyone explain how this would make sense for Google? Also why would a company as big as Google risk being caught for Fraud.
Domainer Extraordinaire says
>>It seems extremely counter productive unless it was just a short term plan to save money by reducing publishers. Can anyone explain how this would make sense for Google?
Every publisher I know that was canned signed up again even if they had to create a new company. Net effect, Google steals their last payment and the traffic returns.
Danny Pryor says
That Google bothered responding is telling, at least for me. I was banned in early 2012. I have never gone back to Google because I don’t trust them not to fuck me again.
By the way, my payment was actually on its way, via ACH, when the payment was recalled and my account banned.
We have a call to action over on RicksBlog.com and NeusNews.com. Let’s get to it!