On Friday Matt Cutts announced that Google would soon be imposing a change in the search algorithm that would limit the number of search results coming from one domain.
The news was broke by SearchEngineLand.com, which said it will make it less “likely to see results from the same domain name, if you already have been shown that domain name in previous results three or four times before”.
“Matt explained that once you’ve seen a cluster of about four results from a specific domain name, the subsequent pages are going to be less likely to show you results from that domain name”.
:The history for domain clustering within Google is as follows:
- There was no restrictions in the number of results per domain name. This turned out to be a bad thing, as Matt explained.
- Google added “host clustering,” that prevented more than two results per domain name to be shown in the search results. Webmasters got around this by placing content on subdomains.
- Google expanded the clustering to show a max of 3 or 4 results per domain, instead.
- Google then changed this to show more diversity on the first page of results but show less diversity on the secondary pages. So you’d likely not see more than two results from the same domain name on the first page, but you can see several results from the same domain on secondary pages.
- Launching soon is a change to this to show less from the same domain, even on subsequent pages, after you’ve already seen about four results from the same domain for that query.”
It appears this is VERY bad news for those trying to sell or those who have bought subdomains.
Chicago.com has been very active and successful in the sale of subdomains, CentralNic has sold a ton of third level domains and more domain owners like Criminallaw.com have hopped on the subdomain sale train.
The sale of subdomains are going to compete with the sale of New gTLD’s domains.
Google applied for over 100 new gTLD domain names.
I’m not saying the two are related but then again Google just increased the search value of new gTLD’s and devalued subdomains.
Hmm. I wonder how Google determines whether something is a subdomain or third level domain? Can be the same thing, but what about a site under .co.uk? It will be a third level. I assume Google has a way of figuring out that’s not a subdomain. But you raise a good point about the CentralNic domains.
Andrew
I don’t think it matters to Google whether its a second level domain or a third level domain, think per Cutts they are both going to get limited
Notice something? Cutts almost never announce anything positive. He is constantly cutting, no pun intended.
Google is showing signs of a nervous king, an uneasy head that’s wearing the crown.
As far as I’m concerned, all these policies formulated in secrecy, and the unavoidable evil that fester in such condition, could inevitably lead to it’s demise. They should let sunshine in, and occasionally announce some positive news, that benefit their partners, not just advertisers and their own interests.
Surely there’s a difference. Otherwise if you searched in the UK, you’d only see four domains that ended in .uk.
@ JoinVeturefy –
Uh, that’s because he’s in charge of web spam. To an SEO person it will always be negative, to a Google user it will be positive.
xyz.com/Denver
xyz.com/NewYork
xyz.com/LA
xyz.com/Atlanta
xyz.com/Detroit
xyz.com/Chicago
xyz.com/LasVegas
xyz.com/Dallas
So these would be considered sub domains – and if so – I am all for it – all these SEO losers creating trillions of pages like this that do nothing more than clutter up the web with jibber.
Eliminating this would obviously bring the intuitive nature of generic domain more to the forefront.
Centralnic third level domains look like this yourname.uk.com or centralnic.uk.com pretty easy to distinguish.
As far as subdomains, Google doesn’t care if the domain owner sets up hundreds of subdomains to get extra sites listed in Google or hundreds of separate owners all using subdomains off of chicago.com
Brian
Now those aren’t subdomains
subdomains are like miami.condos.com
or http://parking.chicago.com/
check them out they both work
from the horses…
I think this is an effort to do one of two things, first, potentially damage companies that are selling subdomains because as Mike said, it competes with their pending registrations.
The only truly (wildly) profitable area for Google is Adwords, these new GTLD’s are a way to get businesses to use them (for free) and then get them to then use Adwords.
Two, it is going to help prevent vertical advertising companies (Quinstreet, BankRate, etc) from ranking in two places organically for a lucrative term. So instead of ranking for “insurance quotes” on both a subdomain and non-subdomain page, they’ll have to choose one or neither, if it’s an EMD.
The point is – there is no difference between Chicago.com/Parking and Parking.Chicago.com is there ? And if there is – it wont be long before they are both indexed the same – if at all ?
The point for Google is they can’t tell if parking.chicago.com and parkinglot.chicago.com are the same person trying to get multiple listings in google or two completely separate companies. Hence, they are limiting subdomains completely.
The only spam coming out are from Google and from the mouth of Matt.
Nick
Correct, thereby greatly diminishing the value of subdomains and the sale thereof
Of course Google will be distinguishing between official third level domains like domain.co.uk/.com.au/etc and unrecognized subdomains like domain.us.com.
Actually people who understand domains are probably not the guys who buy sub-domains in any case.
But with this update if a lay person never sees a sub domain in search results, he/she’s less likely to buy one too.
And Sean is right in suggesting that they’re fine tuning the landscape for new gtlds, too much stuff points in the same direction for it to be a coincidence.
Unless I have always understood things wrong, Google has always considered each subdomain a unique domain / different place. So different.thedomains.com is completely different than thedomains.com. This has always been the problem with using www. As a prefix or not coz then google can slap you with duplicate content if you don’t setup your webmaster tools correctly.
To me this seems like a slap for folks that have lots of subdirs indexes per keyword. So in thay case you wouldnt see too many thedomains.com/different for the same search.
This will actually create an incentive to use sub-domains in order to game the system to get more spots in the search results as each subdomain is considered a diffent destination.
Again unless I have always misunderstood this for like the past 5 years.
If you think about it new tlds are mostly sub domains in reverse and probably more saleable because people are accustomed to blooingdales.com/shoes (the sub category after the brand not before). This is all because firms never knew how to really use and benefit from sub-domains and associated sep.
I think most of the ones Google applied for exist as sub-domains within Google now ie. Music.Google.com
REF: http://domains.dantobias.com/structure/subdomains.html
Owen
That domain is being redirected
Doesn’t AOL’s Patch (hyperlocal news) use all subdomains? To what extent does this algo change affect them?
Hello MHB,
Google has mastered one of Businesses largest Mass Hoaxes. Their Search Engine platform takes words then fragments them into Symbols and words without regard to their true relationships.This system makes facts unrecognizable in creating a vast pool of Bi-polar symbols and word mutations that are theoretically supposed to extrapolate and locate Online Businesses.
We call this the Search Engine Hoax.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
Apart from the heading of this thread being loaded…
One the one hand Matt talks about domains and sometimes he talks about websites…
We have been providing free websites on subdomains at signup.jislaaik.com for a decade. As it is a PR4 site, many people have been using it as a quality linkback site. We will have to see how this update affects us, but as I believe we are a bona fide site with bonafide reasons for existence, we won’ be penalised to badly.
We have many thousands of these sites and I think we are being silly if we think Google is going to preclude any site just because of it’s domain.
Can you for a minute think that they will reduce the amount of http://subdomain.blogger.com results? I doubt it.
I believe what he is saying is that if there is a shortage of quality results they will resort to padding results on a more stringent basis and probably make the bot work a bit harder…
Or are they going to allow the experience of zero results to return…?
We are also about to rollout a raft of subdomain sites on V.co.za, like C.V.co.za and T.V.co.za, so it would be interesting to see what Google makes of that…
We will even have H.I.V.co.za… lol 😉 Now that is a long shorttail name…!
R. E. = ” I’m not saying the two are related but then again Google just increased the search value of new gTLD’s and devalued subdomains.”
Michael we are not singling you out here but only wish to make a point.
The above statement assumes or would have to assume that Google is the largest weighing factor in valuing Domain Names. This by the way is a most highly acceptable mind set for many uneducated Marketers, they drink this kool-aid big btime.
Any educated Marketer has to know that there are 100s of metrics that go into a Domain Names Strategic Market Value as a superior, online business, locating tool. Many Generic .COM Pure Play names that bypass google are extremely valuable Marketing Tools without Google or any Search engine Hoax.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
so an internet without search engines..
No doubt they will add manual patches for likes of .com.au and .co.uk etc , theres probably only a couple of hundred of these and will be no problem for them at all.
This only affects SERPs after page one, which no one cares about. It’s just an extension of what Google has already been doing on page one. This barely changes anything, and tying this to the upcoming gTLDs is really a non sequitur. Google previously got rid of guys on page one doing things like this:
apartments.[geodomain].com
apartmentlistings.[geodomain].com
etc.
And then dominating page one for apartment-related terms, for example. The upcoming change applies similar logic to results after page one. Chicago.com can still sell these:
apartments.chicago.com
restaurants.chicago.com
etc.
And those will rank for the appropriate SERPs. Google has already effectively limited the number of subdomains you can sell and rank in a particular vertical for page one any way. The subdomain business model is still the same. You can still sell thousands of subdomains in many different verticals.
Also, I never understood using subdomains to rank in Google anyway. Subdomains are treated as individual websites by Google as far as ranking goes, so you are massively diluting your link juice by using subdomains. In most cases, I think it’s better to use example.com/term to keep all your link juice on the same domain. In other words, if you purchase domains.chicago.com, for example, you don’t get any SEO benefits of the work that other people have done on other Chicago.com subdomains. I don’t think that buying chicago.com/domains would have the same issue. A person better versed in SEO can correct me if I’m wrong.
Plus, many consumers don’t really understand subdomains any way. A lot of people aren’t used to typing in two dots to go to a website (unless they’re typing WWW). How much traffic do you think vote.obama.com (a subdomain used by the Obama campaign in 2012) leaked to voteobama.com? Hint: a lot. I don’t think they would’ve had the same problem with obama.com/vote. At the very least, the leak would’ve been to the correct root domain.
R. E. = ” so an internet without search engines..”
For your information there was an internet way before Google ambushed and held hostage the growth of Internet Expansion.
Google was efficient for the first few 100 thousand sites, but there soon after as Marketing Saturation Obsolescence took over it decommissioned itself through its inefficient Marketing Platform. Its usefullness in actually locating businesses Online is obsolesced through its inefficiency to foster an infinite amount of businesses that the Internet Platform is capable of. This is a fact you and others are going to have to accept.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
“vote.obama.com…….I don’t think they would’ve had the same problem with obama.com/vote”
Yes – that is the reality. Plus doesn’t facebook also promote the later as well ?
Facbook.com/CantBuyADotCom
vs.
CantBuyADotCom.Facebook.com
Jeff,
so you never use a search engine then right..
R. E.so you never use a search engine then right..”
Only to find information on subject matter, but never to find a targeted (.COM Profit Center ) where I would purchase something.
Only Mindless Googlebots that cannot spell trust Googles Random Universe Gambling locator, Hoax.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
Jeff, that doesn’t make any sense.
information leads to purchases. of course i wouldnt expect you to know that with your nearly 40 years of “marketing experience.”
clearly you’ve never operated any sort of ecommerce site or ANYTHING anywhere on the internet with your child like, pie in the sky view of how things SHOULD work.
you dont make money by crying about the way you want things to be when that isnt reality. either change things or use the current avenues available to help you profit.
or yell things that arnt true until you die. at least people will know you stood for something important, right?
What some fools who decieve End-Users are not telling End-Users is this :
Pure Play Generic (.COM Profit Centers ), gives anyone instant credibility, high visibility in the search engines, all witout Manipulated data charges.
This is the very definition of SMART ONLINE MARKETING !
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
no, wrong again.
smart online marketing is using all avenues to make you money.
Google has run rough shod over the domaining landscape for years now,and we should expose their well planned strategy for subverting Domain name valuations and their strategic values available to smart End Users.I call this strategy the MATRIX Strategy,that is being exposed by Industry leaders.
We are seeing the Parking pendulum swinging and starting to free .COM foundations to the more fertile ground of forming Capital Structure through new business creation. It has been a long time coming ,but Rick Schwartz and others are changing the Parking Paradigm.
We contend that to employ Domain names in a fashion to reach their highest and best use parking is highly unproductive. Domain names are Strategic Marketing tools designed for Online business expansion.
No I am not drinking or smoking, but an analogy just popped into my head. Remember the movie Matrix? Where vast pods of humans are banked so the matrix could live off humans energy? Say you look at Google as the matrix that has vast stores of .COMs in Parking pods, that they feed just enough oxygen or money, to these dormant .COMs, keeping them under control through the parking system, whereby the .COM never gets to break free and develop into a business. Isn’t this a Matrix?
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
…….or we could wake up from this fantasy and just make money TODAY.
I make money everyday
Are they mutually exclusive?
Google pays some of my friend’s rent, both from their own pockets and the customers they bring. Im all for it.
Michael:
to what? having a conversation about the future? following events as they unfold?
no. whats ridiculous is Jeff using the argument of consumer habit for .COM domains but at the same time ignoring people kind of have a habit for using search engines these days.
Your still paying attention to what Jeff says?
Subdomains were at one point viewed as a way to work around the Panda update. So if your site got hammered for being too well sculpted, then you could just rely on subdomains.
Google will change position often on what is and isn’t good SEO practice. Sometimes contradicting themselves within 18 months on one particular strategy. This is understandable as the algo needs to evolve to stay ahead of the black hat SEO’s.
Getting back to Google’s positioning of this update, policy, much of it really does put them in a good place when the new GTLD domains roll out.
Ironically, Matt Cutts announced that Google was giving far less weight to exact match domains. His team found that there’s not necessarily more relevance to EMD domains. The ironic part, is that these new GTLD domains that Google has applied for, they are in fact exact match domains but to an even more extreme level.
Ad agencies, digital and traditional, they want these new GTLD domains. Because they are cheap, they won’t rank initially (or shouldn’t) so that’s going to require the advertiser to provide the agency with more money for “social media” and paid search and display advertising. All of that, brings in more ad spend and fees.
A lot of digital agencies are advising corp clients to not purchase EMD’s, even fully developed sites with a lot of traction. I know there’s been one domain broker in particular loudly proclaiming otherwise, but I feel like that’s self serving PR to help his company.
Ultimately, I think that this isn’t something that can last, it might be three years, but .Com will become the focus again despite the push that may come from Google for these new GTLD domains, along with exact match domains.
There’s no way that all of the billions that have been spent behind (primarily) .Com domains, that isn’t something that American businesses, from mom and pops to Fortune 500 companies will just throw in the dumpster because there’s a bunch of new GTLD domains that are “hot” at the moment.
But there’s going to be a lot of industry noise when these strings begin to launch. I fear consumers and business owners will have a hard time wading through it all.
Sean
Assuming you are 100% correct Sean there are a lot of people in the domain business that are going to have a VERY HARD time making it through those 3 years
pfff somehow i knew that was gonna be the response..
embarrassingly, yes. i probably have as much free time as Jeff i just havnt used it for productive things like going insane, yet.
R. E. = ” Your still paying attention to what Jeff says? ”
We have a news flash for you Michael, The Smart money looks at the quality of the commenters on your Blog and are TUNED into my Marketing truths.
From an Expert in accessing Nascent Marketing platforms, all I have to say is 5 years from now People will be living what I say, and they will forget the ones who steered them off in the wrong direction. History is recording us all and as far back as I can remember you I have been ACING YOU.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group0 (Metal Tiger)
Jeff
you have been ACING me?
What does that mean
So Jeff – you lend yourself as “quality of the commenters”.
Wouldn’t “quantity of comments” be a more accurate way of sizing yourself up.
For example any given thread is consumed by 30%-50% of your “posts” – I guess you must feel that makes you smarter and more in touch with yourself ?
Jeff – MHB;s feats are well known and documented, no doubt just the tip of the iceberg and the rest in NDA. What exactly have you achieved to think you;ve “aced’ anyone at all? Really?
Quite a bold claim so either now put up or be quiet.
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/%60USeBiz.com%27+Domain+Name+to+Go+On+Sale%3B+Experts+Expect+the+Name+to…-a063663917
^ that link didn’t post correctly.. just copy and paste the entire thing including the …-a063663917 portion at the end.
and note the date on the press release..
Well Boys this is my answer :
I AM THOROUGH CONCISE AND DEAD BALLS ON
Obviously there are some that feel shorter is better.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
@ Mike
I can tell you that I have heard from two digital agencies, and from a handful of end users (two of which who have done massive EMD acquisitions) that in terms of risk vs reward, there’s too much risk associated with EMD’s.
I mean it’s bogus and honestly this is a great time for people who are long term investors to sell off non-core properties and reinvest profits from sales into better domains. IMO, .Com can’t go away. There’s just too much invested, not by our little industry, but by every company in the fortune 500.
The push for the new GTLDS and the effort to discount .Com makes sense if most of ecommerce is in fact going to migrate away from the desktop / laptop and to mobile as analysts expect it to.
I don’t necessarily agree with that theory, that mobile is 100% the future. Some verticals just don’t work on mobile. Also, security on mobile is a joke, something that hasn’t really hit the national spotlight yet, but it will I’m sure.
Mobile search (mobile / tablet popularity) is one of the reasons that direct navigation traffic is down. These new GTLD domains, they’ll compliment the efforts to circumvent direct navigation.
Ultimately, I think that the industry needs to shift dramatically and quickly, the product (advertising) that we’re all selling needs new packaging.
In closing, right now isn’t the time to panic, but if Apple removes the .Com button from iOS in a new update, well then, that’s when everyone should panic.
R. E. = ” Ultimately, I think that the industry needs to shift dramatically and quickly, the product (advertising) that we’re all selling needs new packaging.
Sean ,The SEO Manipulated Search Engine (advertising) package definitely needs new packaging, is the best capsulation of our present obsolesced Online Marketing Era, on this thread so far.
What got us here?
The scope and size of the business infrastrucure online has homogonized and splintered the effectiveness of all search engines including Google and the descending hierarchy of search engines.
People will will use them less and less as this saturation level of information spawned by SEOs leads them nowhere they really want to land.
Some people need to undertstand that GOOGLE cares nothing for companies BRANDS, rather they destroy them, by information homogenization, i.e. smoke and screens, and SEO manipulation of the very true meaning of language. BRANDING will live on long after these tactics are gone. Your Virtual Business Foundations BRAND is an Eternal Symbol that weathers all storms of dissinformation, and remains a perpetual advertising machine with high emotional recall responses from consumers.
Generic Pure Play .COM Profit Centers are the new Package everyone will adopt.
Rick Schwartz is leading the pack again. Is anyone surprised?
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
security on mobile devices is a joke but dont say it like itll remain that way. itll catch up just like we did with big computers.
.COM is too ingrained for there to be one or two or 10 things to cause a panic… i think people react with extreme definite statements to counter the extreme hype from the other side..
just follow the situation as it unfolds and you’re still years ahead of the general public.. taking sides like TLD’s are a sports team is adding your emotions to making money. its all just domains.. naming. people act like they are switching religions because they are interested in whats gonna happen with other TLD’s..
but repent now i say. 🙂
According to Google “Jeff” has left 314,000 comments on domain blogs
btw, Jeff the domain Gods just gave your USEbiz.com a second lottery ticket via Bollywood film star & Email.biz brand ambassador Yaana Gupta and Email.biz founder Anshul Goya
http://www.dnjournal.com/archive/lowdown/2013/dailyposts/20130520-2.htm
Of course your biggest prospect is still BIZ Laundry Detergent whose tagline and call to action is EMD to your asset
http://www.bizstainfighter.com
They just got a huge infusion of venture capital so you better get off of here for a while and go get em tiger (metal
I guess the “smart money” just didn’t get the memo.
but hes a marketing expert guys.
he just doesnt believe in using manipulated results like search engines………. or phone books, billboards, TV/radio ads.
the only way to figure out the domain you wanna visit is to sit and meditate for at least 4 hours per day. it will come to you. you will know.
an alternate method is to stalk the CEO of the company you want to figure out the domain to… jump out at him/her as they exit their vehicle. DONT SAY A WORD. just give them a stern look and a chuck-norris-like-nod they’ll tell you their domain name.
take that search engines.
Wow there seems to be no end to ignorance on fire. All the Search Engine Drones, are on high alert. Anyone who knows Marketing Truths be on alert, because you could go up in smoke at any moment.
The Google Goggle crew is out in force and are they pissed.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
why are you capitalizing random words like they’re headlines?
Maybe its time for Robert Cline to have some company 🙂
Somewhere a great thread has been lost to redundancy
R. E. = ” Maybe its time for Robert Cline to have some company ”
Displacing my identity with someone else’s is illusionary, are you aware of your displexic condition ? My name is Jeff Schneider.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
”
Rick Schwartz is leading the pack again. Is anyone surprised?
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
”
not at all actually. but ive got a deeper understanding of whats going on. you see, by making you all believe your long tail generic not quite exact match domains not suitable for an ecommerce business domains are worth a fortune, you’ll join jointventures thus adding to his inventory of mud against the wall 40 years of marketing expertise approach, and sooner or later one of them will get leased and he’ll be posting how he could see the future when everybody was laughing at him, and all of a sudden your dreams will seem possible. and they will be possible, if you’re one of the tiny percent that gets leased or sold, just like his own portfolio where hes only made a small number of deals over the years, with the exception being he had a few PREMIUM CATEGORY KILLER DOMAIN NAMES which he is now using as examples for jointventures (you can do it too!). but in the end, only Rick Schwartz and a small percentage will make any money, while the rest of you missed opportunities along the way holding off to win the lottery. its the repeat story of Rick Schwartz winning and the majority of his customers losing
Jeff
I wasn’t aware that Rick had customers
Owen
Is that the correct number?
The real number of actual posts may be far higher, at a guess thats just a count of the number of PAGES where posts appear. Often there is multiple posts per page.
“Jeff” – can you please let us know the name of your offshoring spam company as I have some work for them!
its more like 4,000. search the entire signature in quotes.
more and more though i wonder if this person isnt real. if its just an act and this person has simply assumed someones identity. im being completely serious.. the character was consistent for a while but sometimes seems off now..
I’ll take a stab.
No, as long as the content is exclusive to each subdomain, such as on about, which still ranks page 1 for “calorie count,” and “thai food.” iReport.cnn.com is #1 for a search of, “iReport.”
Inspection.com, a left of the dot property, is page 2 of Google on my desktop.
But StackOverflow is much limited in the results than before, on a search, for instance of:
http://www.google.com/search?q=css margin padding
Before, StackOverflow was appearing on 8 results of the top ten – annoying!
The enemy of better is results is thin and duplicate original text, thin being predictable couple of lines of text in a shallow, superficial way, and duplicate extending to original text appearing on more than one page of a website, such as the “categories,” and “search” results of a wordpress site. Google ways to avoid duplicate text on the same site!
@Michael
”
I wasn’t aware that Rick had customers
”
well yes he does if you want to talk semantics. 10’s of thousands of them in fact. and 10’s of thousands of them have lost, and Rick Schwartz has taken off with their money. and whilst not conclusive, your response illustrates how little the domain industry knows about Rick Schwartz. it also illustrates the way Rick has worked since the adult days, which is to form a wall of heavy hitters around him, to protect his white collar scams (and yes his blog is full of half truths, essentially tricking people). but the thing is, you dont need to do this in the domain name indsutry Michael, because there’s nothing to gain like there was int he adult industry re heavy hitter traffic networks. and if you have the courage to be a leader which you often demonstrate, you will stand out and above the actions of people like Rick Schwartz and allow information flow in response to commentary. and believe me, your readers want to hear this information
Hi Denise King –
I should say more but I will not – but what I will say is – sometimes it is better just to get off your ass and do something for yourself and your drive and your business model and what is good for you – rather than listen to some fucking politician jerking you off 🙂
Well said Denise King!
While some vain domainers have been squabbling semantics with each other, in a “Game of thrones”, Google, and other search engines have walked of with the seven kingdoms!
It didn’t have to be this way… had we stood together and offered a combined marketing front to educate the public, gTLDs would not even have been proposed!
Funny now that the main selling point of gTLD’s is the education of the main stream…
Wake up domainers! Are you an industry or a rabble of individual stay at home layabouts?
MichaelB take note what Denise said…
Dom
I have taken note of what Denise said
Denise Obviously has some issue(s) with Rick and it seems it goes a long way back.
Understood
Denise doesn’t like Rick
Understood
Denise isn’t going to be going to traffic or do any other business with Rick.
Understood
Now we don’t need 1,000 more Denise comments on the subject especially when once again Rick wasn’t the subject of the post nor did the post itself have ANYTHING to do with Rick, TRAFFIC, or JointVentures.
The post is about GOOGLE and subdomains.
I agree with you MHB, comments should be Google oriented, and heres another Google oriented article fresh off the presses:
Swindles and Spam, Lurking in Your Search Results / (New York Times – Business Thur. may 23/13.
” Online advertisements are 182 times more likely to deliver malicious content than pornographic sites ”
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
lol
thankyou for the support. @Michael, you’ve tried to be diplomatic, but painted a brush as though its personal and my response is. firstly, why would anyone risk doing business with someone who’s modus operandi is to trick people, after hearing actual accounts of the mans history? and people will decide if its true or not, unless they’re blinded by love like Owen and Robin. but if you’ve got nothing to lose, or think you’ve got things under control, or dont mind getting in bed with the devil then go for it, you’ve been warned. in regards to not liking Rick, i’m whistle blowing and your readers want to hear it! whether its on this thread or another thread, and you invited me to respond re posting “I wasnt aware Rick had customers” in response to my post which was made in response to Jeffs post about Rick Schwarz leading the way again. oh and there might have to be a 1,000 more comments ont eh subject if you keep covering things up deleting my posts when responding to other commentators posts” (i questionned whether i should post this part, because it will bring you and Rick together, but it demonstrates i dont care about it personally, im just doing a service tot he community and wish others would do the same when they know something – and i’ll provide evidence at the end of this post). in regards to Traffic, what would anyone have to gain by going to TRAFFIC unless their selling something to domainers? YOU’RE NOT FRIENDS WITH RICK SCHWARTZ YOU FOOLS! no one is, he’ll suck the blood out of your carcus and leave you lying on the side of the road. dont believe me? take a look at ebid.com quote “You can’t ask for a better deal than to start at $50,000 for first year on a domain lease plus a fair % of equity, Mark.” plus a fair % of the equity? you’ve got to be kidding you blood sucker. and this is the man Owen publicly stated is a “pillar of the community”. ahh Owen, that’s a leech you’re bidding your reputation on