We are now less than one month from April 12th, the last day an application for a new gTLD can be submitted.
We now know that 294 people have paid $5K to put in an App of course each registered user can file 49 apps so the number of actually apps submitted to ICANN is higher but ICANN for some reason refuses to release the number of apps received just the number of registered users.
With the App period coming to a close we thought we should run a poll.
To be clear applications will be submitted for .brand TLD’s, Generic TLD’s, Geo TLD’s and IDN’s.
You can vote at the right and for bragging rights you can place your pick in the comment and if you really want to get fancy you can pick what percentage of application will be brands Vs. the other types.
Towards the end of the poll, I will make my prediction.
1500
oh, and fully 1/2 will fail as incomplete or not-capable
it’s simply impossible to guess, however, I voted “Over 2,500”
500ish, though most experts say 1k+.
And I’m going to assume .brand tlds will be a substantial chunk of those.
At least imho.
How Many New gTLD Applications Will Be Submitted?
How Many New gTLD Applications Will Be DISCLOSED?
The first CEO of ICANN admitted that applications for new gTLDs were not revealed. Apparently, some applications were denied and refunds were made.
The U.S. Government seems to be pushing for 500 Applications.
The correct ICANN answer will then likely be: 500
IMO south of 1,000.
Something between 1700 and 2100
Seeking Certainty in the ICANN TLD Process
ICANN has said the first BATCH will be 500
Has anyone been invited to the upcoming NTIA and ICANN meetings in Washington, D.C. ?
How about the reception for the new ICANN CEO ? were you invited to the last one in Washington, D.C. ?
Thanks for playing
“How Many New gTLD Applications Will Be Submitted?”
How Many New ICANN gTLD Applications Will Be Submitted?
How Many New IANA gTLD Applications Will Be Submitted?
Below is all the incumbents submitted before ICANN.
Applicants are advised to complete this to get in line at the IANA (NTIA).
http: //www. iana. org/domains/root/tld-change-template.txt
IANA TLD MODIFICATION TEMPLATE 2010-02-17
** This should be completed and submitted to root-mgmt@iana.org.
** In most cases, this can be completed online. For more information
** visit http://www.iana.org/domains/root/ or contact IANA for
** assistance.
1. Top-Level Domain Name………..:
2. Purpose of change……………:
Sponsoring Organization
3a. Organization Name……………:
3b. Street Address………………:
3c. City……………………….:
3d. State………………………:
3e. Postal Code…………………:
3f. Country Code (2 letter)………:
Administrative Contact
4a. Contact Person’s Name………..:
4b. Job Title…………………..:
4c. Organization Name……………:
4d. Street Address………………:
4e. City……………………….:
4f. State………………………:
4g. Postal Code…………………:
4h. Country Code (2 letter)………:
4i. Phone Number………………..:
4j. Fax Number………………….:
4k. Email Address……………….:
4l. Treat as role acct? (y/n)…….:
Technical Contact
5a. Contact Person’s Name………..:
5b. Job Title…………………..:
5c. Organization Name……………:
5d. Street Address………………:
5e. City……………………….:
5f. State………………………:
5g. Postal Code…………………:
5h. Country Code (2 letter)………:
5i. Phone Number………………..:
5j. Fax Number………………….:
5k. Email Address……………….:
5l. Treat as role acct? (y/n)…….:
Authoritative Name Server
6a. Hostname……………………:
6b. IP Address(es)………………:
Authoritative Name Server (duplicate for additional name servers)
6a. Hostname……………………:
6b. IP Address(es)………………:
Delegation Signer Record (for DNSSEC signed zones only)
7a. Key Digest………………….:
7b. Key Tag…………………….:
7c. Key Algorithm……………….:
7d. Key Digest Type……………..:
Delegation Signer Record (duplicate for additional DS records)
7a. Key Digest………………….:
7b. Key Tag…………………….:
7c. Key Algorithm……………….:
7d. Key Digest Type……………..:
Domain Information
8a. URL for Registration Services…:
8b. WHOIS Server………………..:
Special notes (for staff processing change, does not appear publicly)
9. Notes………………………:
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There is NO fee. Send a copy to the NTIA, FCC and USPTO and the Library of Congress.
Also send copies to all of your elected officials, including all candidates for President of the United States.
Get in line. Thanks for playing.
The first batch of 500 may make it this time.
http: // www. iana. org/domains/root/tld-change-template.txt
** This should be completed and submitted to root-mgmt @ iana. org.
** In most cases, this can be completed online. For more information
** visit http: //www. iana. org/domains/root/ or contact IANA for
** assistance.
There is NO fee. Send a copy to the NTIA, FCC and USPTO and the Library of Congress.
Also send copies to all of your elected officials, including all candidates for President of the United States.
1900 suckers…and losers
dot “BullS” is reserved
“1900 suckers…and losers”
Applicants should be advised to contact the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC).
The FTC can provide a letter explaining how ICANN sells Franchises without Disclosure Documents.
The FTC Franchise Test has 3 parts:
1. Does the Applicant (Franchisee) use the ICANN logo and branding ?
2. Does the Franchisee pay fees to the Franchisor ICANN ?
3. Does the Franchisor (ICANN) control the Franchisee ?
Franchise laws and Disclosure Documents are designed to help ensure predictable results.
Does ICANN guarantee anything?
They say a sucker is born every minute so it may well be a large number. They will, however, all end up losing their shirts.
This is now being demonstrated nicely in the legal paperwork involved in Rick Schwartz’ case. In the complaint to WIPO, the .com.br guy is crying that, according to Alexa, he is losing 82% of his traffic to Rick’s .com site. Boooo Hoooo. Oh woe is me! Sob sob. Sniffle Sniffle. Please pass the hanky.
C’mon guys. Wake up. Who out there thinks that any of the new proposed gtlds will be any different?
5700
People will come ti realize that there will be as much variation ti the right as to the left.
With no long-term IANA Contract with the U.S. Government…
Applicants should be requesting a REFUND at this point from ICANN
If the entire new gTLD offering (Subscription Agreement) is canceled, then there would be ZERO Applicants for new gTLDs.
Applicants to the IANA (NTIA) for new TLDs (Top Level Domains) will be converging on Washington, D.C. starting tomorrow. ICANN may be just one of many at the meetings.
If people need directions to Washington, D.C. try Google Maps.
I love this hype just like .xxx, this has all the markings for failure, so many leeches out to suck these companies dry on consultation money. It might work with a few large corps, but mainstream no way.
When you have Robert Cline on board, that’s when you know you really have something.
@Ron–right on..bro
you must have learned it from ‘BullS”
Suckers….dot com is king
ICANN is just ONE small player with some gTLD Aps
Check out the NTIA Comments:
“In the domain name system, the model is directly in the middle of a controversy between some American businesses and the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) over the expansion of generic top level domain names (gTLDs). And an important set of activities will involve defining the role of governments in Internet governance while opposing the efforts of some governments to foreclose on existing processes and replace them with more traditional government regulation and control.”
ICANN thinks they have an Exclusive “IN” with the IANA.
The IANA has to consider ALL voices in the Multi-Stakeholder Eco.System
Your Applications with ICANN are not Applications with the IANA.
There will be thousands of Applications submitted to the IANA.
“.brand TLD’s, Generic TLD’s, Geo TLD’s and IDN’s.”
I think you should know by now that IDNs are part of each respective category.. Bad editing… Not everyone speaks english… Some speak Spanish, Portuguese etc.
I am feeling 567
One too many…………
I think there will be about 500. Since the 294 are registrants who have paid $5,000, some will probably drop out, rather than submit full applications by April 12, at a cost of £185,000 *for each application*
There will be some companies with only one application, probably registrars like iiNet.
There will then be the big guns that buy a few to use and some more to protect their brand. Since Facebook, Google and Apple aren’t on the CRIDO protesters list, they must be in there. I could see them going for up to 10.
Having said that, the CRIDO companies will probably still apply, to hedge their bets.
I predict the gTLD project won’t go ahead in its current form. ICANN are now facing too much opposition. I think there will be new gTLDS in 2013, but not many. The project will get dramatically scaled back.
1450
“I predict the gTLD project won’t go ahead in its current form. ICANN are now facing too much opposition. I think there will be new gTLDS in 2013, but not many. The project will get dramatically scaled back.”
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2013 is a long way off. ICANN will be lucky to survive as some sort of Registrar over-sight labor union.
IANA will likely be split into another non-profit or absorbed into several government agencies. The ISOC and IETF could also divide those tasks.
There are other better solutions for new TLDs. The U.S. FCC will likely lead the charge there with NIST and maybe NTIA and NSF. Face-saving will be important.
Parking $5000 in the TAS for several years may not sit well with people. ICANN has a massive war-chest of cash so they could easily offer refunds.
The Multi-Stakeholder CONSENSUS based approach has shown that the current applicant-based system and 300 page DAG (or FAG) is not a way forward.
“SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) – Apple Inc, the world’s most valuable company, is poised on Monday to confront one of the biggest questions in corporate America: what it plans to do with its $98 billion cash hoard.”
$98,000,000,000 could likely buy the top 50 most valuable TLD Registries
.INC would top the list and may require $10,000,000,000 at auction
.USA is also up there but not via ICANN – NTIA (IANA) could handle that one
The contract for the IANA services could well go to someone else, or a consortium.
Being from the UK, I’m not that familiar with US govt orgs, like the FCC. But I think the strongest pressure will be political, due to the influence of the corporations that ICANN haven’t taken with them.
I agree with your point about face saving. That’s actually why I think there’ll be some sort of scaled-back version of the project, resulting in a few new TL domains, on schedule: possibly restricted to a few new registrars across the globe.
“The contract for the IANA services could well go to…US govt orgs, like the FCC.”
Open Commission Meeting
March 21st 2012
10:30 AM – 12:00 PM EDT / Room TW-C305, 445 12th Street S.W., Washington, DC
The U.S. FCC has a long history of coordinating FAIR and Public Benefit processes. The U.S. FCC cultivates the multi-stakeholder model but the stakeholders have to be experts with a clue or a stake.
ICANN uses the multi-stakeholder model to hide their CRONYISM system.
The U.S. NTIA and FCC are not fooled. They are both building NEW Internets to route around ICANN.
ICANN invades the FCC
http: //www. fcc. gov/events/genachowski-remarks-cybersecurity-bipartisan-policy-center
How many of the new gTLDs will the FCC approve ?
Communications Security, Reliability and Interoperability Council (CSRIC) Meeting
March 22, 2012 / 9:00 AM – 11:00 AM EDT / 445 12th Street, SW, Room TW-C305, Washington, DC 20554
FCC Meeting THIS WEEK – Bring your gTLDs Applications
Rub elbows with the “Insiders” 🙂
980
“.USA is also up there but not via ICANN – NTIA (IANA) could handle that one”
.USA is also up there but not via ICANN – FCC (IANA) could handle that one
How many new gTLDs will be handed (slipped) to the CSRIC members ?
Membership & Charter
List of CSRIC members (pdf)
CSRIC charter (pdf)
Working Groups
Working Group (WG) Descriptions (pdf)
Based upon the deals I’ve already done, I can pretty much guarantee >1,000.
I’ll stick with my initial guess of 1,400 but I’d take the over on that.
special TLDs – sTLDS – secure TLDs
.FCC
.800
.911
.USA
all 50 USA States like .FL and .FLORIDA
.US (relaunched)
plus dozens more that the unwashed masses will not be allowed to get near
Kinda sad. Each individual number guess at here represents someone who will have lost a minimum of $185K. That’s a lot of money that their kids can no longer rely on for college, that they can no longer use for retirement, that they can no longer bequeath to their grandkids. Very sad that all of these people will be losing all of this money for something so obviously silly and destined to fail.
Please don’t say you weren’t warned. You were.
@Sad
yes, all the fools, like
founder of Enom Paul Stahura
former ICANN chair Peter Dengate Thrush
Frederick Krueger, internet megamillionaire
Colin Cambell CEO Hostopia – sold for $124 million
Demand Media
Verisign
The real list is much longer
Yes, sorry bunch of fools they must be
Yes, you cited a list of those that stand to benefit including consultants, registries and IP attorneys.
How argument.
Anyone else, however, will get their investor-ass clobbered and find themselves with the gtld equivalent of .mobi.
how argument => how convenient
“Kinda sad. Each individual number guess at here represents someone who will have lost a minimum of $185K.”
The next round of **recruits** are going to be taken to the cleaners for a lot more than $185,000. 🙂 Look at the fools that took the bait and spent ??? in Costa Rica last week while the insiders were meeting elsewhere.
The insiders are of course working with governments for the low-hanging fruit.
Most of the good strings will be taken, reserved, delayed, etc.
Check out the FCC meeting this week in dotDC (.DC) with the .US and .USA insiders.
[Note: Uncle Sam does not let ICANN near the .US TLD]
ICANN will no doubt be tasked to steer the **recruits** away from the 5000 gTLDs the insiders need for their (job) stability.
If the FCC reserves 2000 and the NTIA (GAC) blocks 2000 that is most of the “good ones”.
dotGZYRK may still be available – step right up – as Bernie Madoff said – “Everyone had to know…”
“most compensation came from recruiting others into the plan.”
Check out the U.S. FTC for Ponzi Schemes and Pyramid Schemes
One of the reasons why the U.S. FTC requires companies selling Franchises (like Reigstries and Registrars) to register is because people will make false claims about business opportunities.
ICANN of course claims they “do not SELL anything”.
Is the $185,ooo and $25,000 a donation ?
Looks like the IAB may not like Color DNS and the redundant COM…1aY COM…2bZ
http: //www. iab. org/2012/02/08/iab-posted-a-statement-on-the-interpretation-of-rules-in-the-icann-gtld-applicant-guidebook/
TOP 10 New TLDs
1. .web 94,674
2. .shop 57,767
3. .site 39,320
4. .hotel 21,050
5. .nyc 15,678
6. .music 13,650
7. .film 13,391
8. .eco 12,624
9. .berlin 12,588
10. .sport 10,293
@unrealbobcline – got a good laugh from that. thanks!
robert cline, champion of irrational exuberance. he’d make a great u.s. politician.
as for new gtld’s, hey, it’s like the “i invented email, almost” guy (crocker) says: this is just an experiment.
usually particpants get paid for taking part in a study that puts them at risk.
not so with this one. particpants have to pay.
this gtld scam is bad for domainers. and not just for potentially stealing traffic. (leaking traffic is more like it, as someone else has mentioned.)
it’s bad because it’s going to draw lots of unneeded attention to the domain name racket.
all because icann had to try to get a piece of the pie for themselves.
what they get from existing registrars and registries under the current system is not enough. they want to “see how much they can get” by tapping deeper pocketed speculators.
it’s greed. but it’s not good. they are putting the golden goose in harm’s way. imo.
maybe they know icann dns is nearing its lifetime anyway, so nothing to lose.
or maybe they are just foolishly greedy, desperate to get into the domain name game, late, long after they missed the boat.
the latter seems more likely.