The hurriyetdailynews.com which is a daily newspaper out of Turkey just published a story on the new gTLD’s and it is my current nomination for the most inaccurate story on the topic I have read anywhere at anytime.
The article is entitled “Generic net domain names to be cancelled”
According to its website the newspaper is “In the 50th Year as Turkey’s English Daily”.
So here is a few quotes from the article:
“”Generic domain names on the Internet such as “.com” or “.gov” will be completely eliminated in a process that will begin next year and effect significant commercial consequences.””
Wow
Where did they get that one?
Icann will take applications for new domain names between Jan. 12 and March 29,
No
Actually applications will be taken until April 12. 2012.
You have to get your slot to make the application by March 29, 2012 with a $5K payment but the application deadline is April 12. 2012.
“”A person or institution who purchases the domain name “www.istanbul” will also acquire rights over the Internet addresses of numerous other commercial, political or social persons or institutions, according to the new regulations.
Of course under the ICANN Guidebook no one can acquire the TLD .Istanbul without the express permission of the city.
As such, Istanbul University, for instance, will have to pay rent to the owner of the name “www.istanbul” if it wants to employ the domain name “www.istanbul.universitesi” or “www.istanbul/universitesi” for its website.””
Brutal.
As someone who just gave a presentation on this topic in front of 100+ attendees of the TRAFFIC conference its a pretty sad that how wrong a newspaper got this.
This is what I call “creative journalism”.
This is what we called “Turkey” News
Wow
Will your TRAFFIC new gtld presentation be available anywhere online?
ZOOM://Domain.NEWS
“Frank Schilling agreed to pay $1.65 million for a collection of .xxx domain names…Schilling retold the tale today in a TRAFFIC session alongside MCI Registry Owners
”…domain names on the Internet such as “.com” or “.gov” will be completely eliminated…”
noooooo, poor us! 🙂
Some lady from Sedari probably wrote one of the most ludicrous pieces in support of the new gTLDs today.
She got scammed trying to pick up bargain Mulberry handbags at some random site, duh why not check Mulberry.com. She went to Mulberry-sale.com. Take a look, would you think this was an authorized Mulberry site. Quite a specious argument for the new TLDs. Would any thinking person believe that Mulberry who uses Mulberry.com would set up a different site of much lower quality to sell handbags at sale prices on a similar domain name with a hyphen in it no less. C’mon. The new TLDs do not fix this. Then she threw out something about WhiteHouse.com being taken over, huh what?
Read it for yourself at CircleID.com
“”Generic domain names on the Internet such as “.com” or “.gov” will be completely eliminated in a process that will begin next year and effect significant commercial consequences.””
Poor Queen English….not sure what exactly mean…
It’s “Queen’s English”
Poor Queen’s English –> “not sure what exactly mean…”
But glad to see you’re on board the .CO train, RAYY.CO. Conductor Cline has us chugging along quite nicely. Quite a nice array of names you have there.
‘…But glad to see you’re on board the .CO train, RAYY.CO. Conductor Cline has us chugging along quite nicely. Quite a nice array of names you have there….”
Oh, yeah…you got it finally…
circleid is mostly garbage. one has to really look hard to find any reasonable, informed, well-balanced, unbiased thinking. it’s unbelievable the stuff they allow to be posted as content and this latest post illustrates it perfectly.
if one is a seasoned internet user then one knows how to verify who owns a domain name and with whom the ip address is registered. even so, this is not 100% trustworthy. and that’s only the domainname and ip. how about the machine itself? there is simply no foolproof way to verify the machine you contact is the one you want. ip’s and mac’s can be changed. routing tables can be manipulated as with anycast. and as we have seen lately, SSL is a mess. you have to take a small leap of faith when you send stuff over the open internet.
if businesses want to make things more secure for customers, the best thing they could do would be to tell their customers their ip addresses. it’s no different than telling them your phone numbers. but management outside of the it dept is unaware of this simple idea. they don’t really know much about the web. they just want it to work.
dns, with its ttl concept and ridiculously complexity of delegations, in the context of online commerce is a joke. to anyone outside of the it dept, that is. it is a throwback to the 1970’s and 80’s when the only organisations on the networks were academic, research or military. those were different times and people were not using the network to buy shoes.
tell me, what _business_, as in the kind that serves _customers_ (who may know nothing about computers), changes its telephone number by the week, day or hour, or even minute?… icann itself uses a 20 second ttl on one of their subdomains. and you though fast flux was only for criminals. yet this is what dns preaches as the smart way to run the internet. maybe so, but it’s not the smart way to run a business environment. and that’s what these folks want to characterise the web as: a business environment.
well-known businesses don’t change their telephone numbers often. and they don’t change your yellow pages ad often. they are not in constant flux. they are easy to find.
and it’s important that they be easy to find oon the web.
but paying icann and consultants to acquire a domain name registry is not the most efficient nor the smartest way to achieve this. not to mention paying seo or google. one would hope big brands know they are being conned.
new gtlds are not going to reduce consumer confusion. the whole icann/consultant business model relies on making businesses believe there is great demand for domain names and great complexity that needs to be carefully navigated.
but the the only reason there is demand is thanks to domainers. and the only reason there is complexity and problems is because we allow icann and their partners to run things. they create and perpetuate the problems they purport to be trying to solve. clarity and simplicity are foreign and frightening to them, and will evade them for their entire careers.
they make money from others’ ignorance. that doesn’t mean the work they do is necessarily helping anyone. incidental beneficiaries of their actions are hardly a justification for what icann/iana/isoc does or fails to do.
or we could do commerce over ssh. it could solve some problems.
but then we wouldn’t be able to drag icons into shopping carts, or look for little padlock icons, or whatever.
and of course, that’s very important. no icons, no deal.
coffee, you’re right. Circle ID may as well be called Circle Jerk.
I still want to know if that woman actually believed that she was visiting Mulberry’s website or if she was really just after a deal on half off handbags and didn’t care who sold them. In the first instance if someone doesn’t yet realize that the a brand’s site is mostly likely to be at brandname.com then I’m not sure there’s any reason to believe that the public will come to understand that all brands can be found at their own TLD. And this individual is supposed to be a domain expert. If it’s the latter, then how will a brand TLD keep people from seeking out bargain items from sites not created by the brand itself.
It makes no sense yet she’s adamant in imploring brands to jump and do this now as if the whole Internet will be all nice and safe if only this were to happen.
Same bozos who argued for the last round of TLD expansion are back at the trough making things up again trying to convince people that they’re actually providing solutions to real problems. Riiight.
I have never read anything in a newspaper on a topic I know well, that was completely accurate. Which infers that every article is factually flawed to some degree or other – though this case seems to be creating a new degree!
Newspaper journalism is nothing more than a game of Chinese Whispers.
@James
Think about Chinese Whisper…love you long time…$2
Preparing my application to ICANN for .USELESS. Plan to launch a search engine containing only addresses making use of the new TLDs. Get ready for
Search.USELESS
launching sometime in 2013.
New TLD applicants are invited to reply to this post and submit their planned TLDs for consideration for inclusion. Best of luck to all.
@james,
well said. ’tis true. journalists have always been a problem in that regard. it’s interesting when you consider that many senior executives and ceo’s routinely devour several newspapers each and every day. garbage in, …
too use a computer-oriented example, an ivy league journalism school attempting to report on web technology will not know that android and unix are basically one in the same. or that virtual machines have been around since the 60’s. even when graduate journalism students have supposedly spent countless hours researching their chosen topics, they miss the most important facts.
then we have self-proclaimed “experts” who write “articles”, as on circleid, where no repeatable experiments were done, no research data is presented, and few to no other sources are cited. with too few exceptions, they are usually just peddling their own services. needless to say, the web has made this much, much easier to do.
what’s amusing about circleid is that some of the posters like to attack domainers as “speculators”. yet that is all these posters do is speculate. they just cannot stop themselves from making assumptions that lack any factual basis. and they will just keep doing this, over and over and over again.
the signal to noise ratio is not good.
“As such, Istanbul University, for instance, will have to pay rent to the owner of the name “www.istanbul” if it wants to employ the domain name “www.istanbul.universitesi” or “www.istanbul/universitesi” for its website.””
How does a university registering a domain name under the .istanbul(dotistanbul) TLD end up with the domain http://www.istanbul.universitesi 🙂
Clearly the article is written by someone who not only has zero knowledge about the domain industry/newtlds but also probably never registered a domain name in their life!
Domains
Clearly