According to a Press Release out tonight the ICM Registry, the company who is running the .XXX TLD today announced it had signed to be the Diamond Overall Sponsor of T.R.A.F.F.I.C. 2011, to be held at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel, Fort Lauderdale Beach, Florida from October 16 to October 19, 2011.
“The event will be the first opportunity for ICM to unveil its long-term plans for the .xxx TLD to the Domainer community since approval back in March earlier this year.
“The event will enable us to promote and explain the Sunrise and Landrush processes first hand to the Domainer community, which is due to start on Sept 7th’, explained Stuart Lawley, CEO of ICM.”
‘We have a unique opportunity with .xxx to bring together the online adult entertainment community and the domain owners in a way that has never been done before. We are currently working on several significant opportunities that will benefit the adult industry as well as the .xxx domain owners themselves’ he said.
‘Our decision to sign as the Diamond Overall Sponsor of T.R.A.F.F.I.C. 2011 was a pretty easy one, given Rick and Howard’s track record with previous TLD launches and we are very excited to be sponsoring the official T.R.A.F.F.I.C. 2011 Party in our home State of FL, which we hope will get attendees excited and in the mood for the upcoming launch and give them a taste of what destination .xxx is all about’ said Lawley.””
I think is now the second year in a row that the overall sponsor of the TRAFFIC conference is a new TLD as the .Co registry sponsored last years show.
I think that goes to show you how important these new TLD will continue to be to the domain industry bringing new money into it.
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I wonder how much flowers.xxx will go for lol
Really a move like this won’t hurt Traffic since it’s been down hill for years now.
What it will do is associate domainers with adult and be a road block for the genral public and conservatives.
Bad move but the point is sponsorship, you get what you can take I guess.
TERRIBLE market positioning for the domain community!!
…Makes TRAFFIC – and the whole domain community – look like sleaze alley…..A cheap porn sideshow…..The ‘.XXX TRAFFIC Domain Conference’, indeed…!!!!
Here we are, constantly moaning that mainstream doesn’t understand that domains are massively important to their mainstream business….that people that own domains are serious business people….that we are not unethical squatters….that we are people that have good business principles, and that we act and operate in good faith…
…and, then, the promoters of the largest, best established, most high profile domain conference, accept the .XXX domain extension as Principle sponsor!!
So, Rick Schwartz & Howard Neu’s TRAFFIC conference benefits from the cash injection?….Good for them…
…But, this will do damage to the ENTIRE domain industry – and every domainer within it…
Personally I believe that the .COMs will definitely remain King.
The .XXX stuff will be primarily purchased for the defensive ownership
of respective brands. Yeap you’ll see around 80% of purchases for that reason alone.
Why? Because they do not control almost 2 Billion people who have come to
know and reply upon .COM
So, try not to get all riled up because it can actually increase .Com values!
…Makes TRAFFIC – and the whole domain community – look like sleaze alley…..A cheap porn sideshow…..The ‘.XXX TRAFFIC Domain Conference’, indeed…!!!!
Dude… a good many wealthy domain pros made there money on porn, typos, and trademarks. That is what this business was built upon and still makes money doing.
Even pros like MHB have a sizable portion of adult names like these newbies:
gappingassholes.com
nuderussiangirls.com
fatcoochie.com
masterbationclubs.com
increasemyejaculation.com
xxxgamesonline.com
Stop being so damn prude. You dont want porn or adult stuff, dont visit.
Mike what do you think about the fact that Frank spent seven figures on .xxx names before it even got approved ? Not really logical to those outside our industry who think the industry is rigged in the first place.
Fail.
Mike what do you think about the fact that Frank spent seven figures on .xxx names before it even got approved?
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That status brings opportunity? He’s smart enough to see what’s around the corner with this TLD.
.xxx is the only “new TLD” I’m remotely interested in. There are about 100 different reasons for this. If I were Frank Schilling, had that his dough and these kinds of opportunities available to me, I’d for damn sure be exercising them.
Cats like him don’t need to stand in line. They determine where the line forms.
Per LS: “.xxx is the only “new TLD” I’m remotely interested in”
The beauty of .xxx is that virtually every .com (TM or generic) will buy .xxx – mostly for defensive purposes – like maybe 90% – but who cares why – that is a really really lot of money
RH
Frank’s move
Brilliant
The chance that .XXX wasn’t going to get approved no more than 5%.
Why
ICM one the independent judicial review which cost each side millions
Once the panel came back saying the ICANN has went against its own rules in denying ICM application years ago, ICANN had to approve it.
The alternative would have been a suit seeking hundreds of millions in damages plus it would scare off new gTLD applicants.
He obviously got some of the best possible domains.
I think .XXX is one of those extensions that it makes sense to have at least a taste of in your portfolio it you have .com adult domains
While I was riled at related publicity because of the possible “guilt by association” implications to ME in parking if those domains were parked on the same dns- I don’t mind this sponsorship at all. Porn is one of the most successful business models on the web. The organ traffic is golden. Any many legacy traffic attendees have done very well in this niche.
The adult industry is way ahead of the curve understanding that the web is a television medium. They’ve been broadcasting long before even the networks got it figured out. I see home shopping following down that path on generic domains.
Howard and Rick need to go where the money is. And think of the hell of a party it will be. Porn stars and unlimited FRE lap dances…. at the Ritz Carlton no less! I’ll feel like Elliott Spitzer!
The mainstream world has no idea of what traffic even is. So there’s no reputation to tarnish. Even mainstream is not complaining about adult itself, just angry they have to pay for another “protection” extension.
Owen
I’m going to agree with you here
1st of all I don’t think the sponsors of conference reflects anything on the conference or its attendee’s it a silly argument.
BYW .XXX has been a sponsor of the last several ICANN meetings.
Its another extension, its legal, approved and presents another investment oppunirty to domain investors.
Obviously Frank already secured domain and spend 7 figures.
Moreover a lot of the top domainers have adult domains.
I do
Rick does
Frank does
I would say without a doubt without the adult domains I own, I would have never had the ability to build the portfolio I have which is now 90% non-adult
““The event will enable us to promote and explain the Sunrise and Landrush processes first hand to the Domainer community, which is due to start on Sept 7th’, explained Stuart Lawley, CEO of ICM.””
“He obviously got some of the best possible domains.”
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He sure did get many of the best possible .xxx domains.
But in doing so did’nt the .xxx register just bypass the Sunrise periods and potentially the rights/needs of Trade Mark holders & the respective .com owners ?
Whats the point of a Sunrise period if they sell off the best domains before it?
It looks that way to me, or am I missing something ?
Gazzip
The domain names Frank got are extremely generic and wouldn’t be handed over in a sunrise based off a trademark
Agreed, they are extremeley generic but what about the second part of Sunrise A ?
Sunrise A is dedicated to members of the adult Sponsored Community with either verifiable trademark rights ………..(or owners of exact matching domains in other IANA TLDs which is also known as “Grandfathering.”)
…just wondering 🙂
Gazzip
Well if a domain is gone its gone
Remember the registry can keep any domain it wants as well
its good to be king
Put down your $185K and own an extension not just a domain
“Well if a domain is gone its gone
Remember the registry can keep any domain it wants as well
its good to be king”
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Oh, I thought the Sunrise periods was some kind of “must have” legal ICANN requirement for ALL new extensions in order to protect the general public/businesses from squatting or TM issues and give businesses a fair shot.
I guess I totally misunderstood it and did’nt realise that it was up to the individual registers to make up its own rules for launch.
“Put down your $185K and own an extension not just a domain”
$185k ++++
Hmmm, I think I will have to pass on that one for now MHB 😉
Great list of names though, cheers for explaining 🙂
“…and, then, the promoters of the largest, best established, most high profile domain conference, accept the .XXX domain extension as Principle sponsor!!”
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Largest and most high profile? Maybe 5 years ago, last I heard a typical attendance was around 200 which makes it a fraction of the size of domainfest.
@Snoop,
“last I heard a typical attendance was around 200 which makes it a fraction of the size of domainfest.”
So more people go to a Colorado Rockies home game to see them lose regularily vs. the mere 20K fans that go to an Atlanta Braves home game where they win regularily – no relevance to quality here IMO.
At the end of the day domain investors (or domainers or whatever) will always be disliked more than any group on the planet.
“So more people go to a Colorado Rockies home game to see them lose regularily vs. the mere 20K fans that go to an Atlanta Braves home game where they win regularily – no relevance to quality here IMO.”
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@BrianWick
Voltaire claimed the following which is the point of debate,
“…and, then, the promoters of the largest, best established, most high profile domain conference, accept the .XXX domain extension as Principle sponsor!!”
That is not a true comment, it is a long way from the largest and nor is it the most high profile.
I have little interest in a subjective debate about what is the best “quality” conference and that was not what was being discussed. Personally I don’t think I’d spend money on any of them but that is up to the individual to decide.
Snoopy
Your assuming there will be a huge Domainfest show in 2012
One show potentially not being as good as it was last year is no excuse for what Traffic has become when compared to years ago.
The fact is the confrence has hit a bottom, it was the event and now its not, no one specifically is to blame. Many factors are involved, the economy as a whole, competition and so on.
I am not a big event attendee, I know I may lose some great potential for contacts which may translate into cash but that is the sacrifice.
If I were to attend it would not be Traffic, sometimes P.T. Barnom is better left in the realm of the circus.
Well, snoopy, you may be technically correct about Traffic not currently being the ‘largest’, or the highest profile etc these days…
My core point was that if this .XXX sponsored domain conference is hyped up by Schwartz & co to attract mainstream blog/or media attention – and/or if either a major sale takes place at this Traffic conference – or, if someone does/says something newsworthy to attract attention to this conference – then, the image of the domain industry in the minds of non-domainer people & businesses will include .XXX – ie Adult…
…And, MHB….
…Its not a ‘silly argument’ that the domain industry risks being tarnished by a .XXX sponsorship if, for any reason, this particular Traffic conference attracts widespread attention, imo.
I have nothing against Adult, myself…..But….What do you think branding is all about??? Why do you think sponsors pay so much to get their logos/images onto products/people/teams etc etc????….Oh….that’s right….they want it to be seen, and they want their image/identity to be associated with that product…
…Works both ways….People will associate the product (in this case Traffic/domaining) with (in this case) .XXX Adult…..ie it adds to the image of ‘Domainers = Sleaze’. Mud can stick….Not helpful.
Sometimes the short-term gain (for a few) is bigger picture pain to everyone else.
Adult is just such a gigantic segment of the netz… It’s been the driving force behind many of the technological advances we now enjoy.
It’s the 800 pound elephant in the room… and as the late, great Randy Pausch said, “When there’s an elephant in the room, introduce him.”
Wait… I think it’s “800 pound gorilla”, and just “elephant in the room”.
Damn you, idiomatic confusion… Damn you!
Yup…lotta people – including domainers – make a lot of money from Adult domains, and the Adult industry. Its a legitimate industry. Nothing wrong with that, imo.
But, a lot of mainstream people & business organisations don’t regard the ‘Adult’ industry as respectable – and, don’t want to deal with what they might regard as the purveyors of porn….Seems silly, but, its a fact of life…
If our goal – as a domain industry – is to gain acceptance as a decent, legitimate, straight & respectable industry – not ‘squatters’, not ‘rip off’ merchants, not ‘shady’, not somehow crawling around the darker edges of the business world etc etc – then, it’d be an idea not to go out of our way to actively promote & brand our industry with obviously Adult associations.
EG…I wonder if Mr Forbes (of Forbes Magazine) – who has been a keynote speaker at a past Traffic conference – would be just as keen to speak at a .XXX Traffic conference…??? I think not.
Branding is all about atmospherics…
It’d be better PR & marketing for domainers, imo, to have gotten any of the major, mainstream, internet players to be ‘Diamond’ sponsor….
See…:
‘MAINSTREAM DECLARES WAR ON DOMAINERS: .XXX SEEN AS EXTORTION AND A “PORN TAX” FOR NON-ADULT BUSINESSES’
…The ANA report to ICANN (ANA represents 400 companies….representing 10,000 brands….that spend collectively over $250 Billion in Marketing, Communications, and Advertising every year)….
You can’t get more mainstream business than that…..and, they do NOT like .XXX…….yet, some still think it won’t hurt the domain industry’s image to plaster .XXX all over one the the largest domain conferences of the year…?!?
…It just doesn’t make sense to me to voluntarily piss off the owners of 10,000 brands that, collectively, spend $250 Billion per year on advertising……Can’t help us – and may hurt us.
http://fragerfactor.blogspot.com/2011/08/mainstream-declares-war-on-domainers.html
Suddenly my comments are ‘Awaiting Moderation’, for the first time, Mike…? (see above post).
I’m sorry if you disapprove of my views/comments on this topic……Its your house, your rules.
But, it disappoints me that it seems you may consider censorship of legitimate contrary opinion.
Voltaire
Your comment included a link
Anytime a comment contains a link it goes to moderation and has to be approved, its why we don’t have spam in the comments.
Anyway I do have to sleep once in a while and your comment has now been approved
Voltaire
Do you know what .XXX slogan is?
“Let’s be adult about it”
Once this extension gets rolled out expect to see it advertised with non-adult media, in the US and internationally.
Domainers irresponsible WORDS and comments on blogs and forums hurt the industry more than anything .xxx can do or I can do.
Domainers that look the other way when they do things that are bad because they are their FRIENDS hurt the industry more than anything .xxx can do.
Whether you like it or not, .xxx is mainstream and they have the blessing of ICANN etc.
They sponsored ICANN and that was ok. Love the double standard!
This is just your chance to bash me and TRAFFIC like you folks do over and over again year after year. That’s really shooting yourself in the foot. With all the wrong doing and actual CRIMINAL ACTIVITY going on in THIS INDUSTRY…..it shows an unfair agenda. But an argument like this helps us because FAIR PEOPLE get it! People that care get it.
In Miami we had 325 not 200. QUALITY vs QUANTITY. We have been very exclusive from the beginning. Not the most just the best. That way you don’t waste your time with folks that WASTE YOUR TIME!
When TRAFFIC was by invitation only, then the same type folks crowed and complained about that. Now it is OPEN FOR ALL and of course you can expect the chorus before it even begins.
I love the guys always sitting on the sidelines. Forget what you think about me, not attending TRAFFIC over the years has cost you money. PERIOD! But besides that, it cost you some great times with a FRATERNITY of domain pros. Folks that know each other well. Know each others families! Folks that understand that you won’t always agree but act civil to each other and treat each other with respect.
As for Steve Forbes. He knew ahead of time what domains I owned. He is a businessman, not a Priest and you could learn something from him. btw, I would live someone to dig up the SHIT they said about me for getting Steve Forbes. Then you would see what a ship of FOOLS we all deal with in this industry.
100,000 wannabes and 1000 domainers. THAT is the “Industry” You better believe we want to be exclusive. We don’t need “Extras” from “Central Casting”. That is why the monetary bar is so high to come to TRAFFIC. That’s why we have it at the highest end hotel in the USA. That’s why we don’t give tickets away. That’s why I think so low of folks that come and don’t pay. If somebody is having a hard time and wants to come, I will personally help them. But do it the right way.
TRAFFIC is so bad that 5 or more folks that work for the other show you mention got on a plane and traveled six thousand miles to come to TRAFFIC. Hopefully if they come this year they will come through the front door and actually pay like everyone else. Hopefully the new management there will CHANGE that. That is pretty low. But of course you can defend that. Not even mention that. They are your FRIENDS!
I decided during the Miami show last year not to take shit from anybody anymore. I got on stage and told EVERYONE how we were being ripped off. Some were distracted by my colorful language but NOW Frank has proven what I said was TRUE. We have been getting screwed. PERIOD!
And here is a secret. During that opening tape recorded message I only played it to Franky, Mike Berkens and Howard before the show and they each urged me to play it. I took some heat for it, but it NEEDED to be said and there are few to say it. I hope that helped to pave the way for what Frank eventually did.
PRETENDERS can’t participate at TRAFFIC and FOOL others. Pretty simple. We have a mission at TRAFFIC and that is prgress. Sometimes, scratch that, most of the time, you don’t control progress. You either acknowledge it or get run over by it. The new game is coming and TRAFFIC will adapt to the future, not the past.
As a P.S. to Rick’s comments above, we have more attendees registered 60 days before the show than ever before. We have only a few Sponsorship positions unfilled, which is unheard of in this industry at this early date. The hotel is almost completely sold out and sessions promise to be standing room only.
So, everyone has a choice: you can either razz from the sidelines and get mired down in self-pity for all of the domains that are parked and not making you any money, or you can find out about what is out there that can replace the lost funding by attending T.R.A.F.F.I.C. and networking and learning from the best in and out of the industry.
Cha-ching!
Kudos to Prick Schwartz.
He’s always making money.
A lesson in how to run a conference and an industry into the ground. Only Shwartz, Neu, Frager and his cabal of sycophants could come up with the brainwave to have .XXX as primary sponsors of TRAFFIC.
Anything wrong with owning adult names? Each to their own……
To have a porn extension as the primary sponsor of a ‘domainer conference’ and you have PR nightmare that only total tossers with blinkers on could think up.
Next year’s conference to be sponsored by .MADDOF. Main event a live hookup from Maddofs jail cell discussing the ins and outs of country club networking…
Razor
That was funny
MADDOF is in jail for the rest of his life
.XXX is legal, approved and you will see it advertised on all sort of major media outlets
Shwartz doesn’t spell his name this way
Frager doesn’t own any part of TRAFFIC
cabal of sycophants
Wow
@Razor,
Howard and Rick (and their FAMILIES) put on TRAFFIC to make dough for us and themselves – that is what the industry is all about – people who make as much money as they can playing by the rules – set forth by the ACPA, UDRP and other governing entities – even the rules we do not like – and people who do not give a S*it about what others think about them or their business model.
If I cared what other think about me or my business – I would be a lifer working for corporate america climbing a corporate latter with 18 levels of mismanagement – where mediocrity is promoted as an unachievable dream.
On that note – I think I am just going to RubOneOut.com !!!
Never said Frager was part of TRAFFIC. But something tells me that the IDEAS man gave the nod to KING SHWARTZ ( with or without the big C) that having .XXX as a primary sponsor would be a great way to offset all those SCABS and LEECHES who have the audacity to show up without the money.
.XXX is legal. Agreed.
Having a live hookup with Maddof is also legal, once the logistics have been sorted out with the boys in blue.
If you cannot see how having a porn extension as a primary sponsor of the domaining industry is a bad move in every sense of the word, then there really is no point in trying to explain it.
Cabal of sychophants??? Never a truer sentence to describe the amount of people sucking the nuts of King Shwartz
MHB……Understood re the link in a post – and, the moderation of it. Apologies for not ‘reading’ that reason.
@Mike, Rick Schwartz & Howard Neu…:
Razor gets it – you guys don’t (tho I disagree with his tone re Rick Schwartz).
I’m not knocking the TRAFFIC conference, itself……I’m highlighting a less than stellar move with this .XXX sponsorship of it.
The owners of 10,000 brands – that spend $250 BILLION per year on marketing, Advertising & Communications – major companies – have come out just the other day, and said they object specifically to .XXX. The spending power of these guys – and where they direct it – and what they think about owners of domains, in that context -matters to all of us, imo.
For the TRAFFIC conference people to almost simultaneously announce that the very same .XXX is the headline & primary sponsor of this leading domain conference has a truly elegant kind of stupidity…!!
Being legal & being willing to buy top billing just AIN’T the most important criteria, when reputation & impression matters…..Many things are legal, but a smart business will rightly stay away from lots of them.
Rick, Howard & co have done a brilliant job in the past in creating & building the TRAFFIC conference into one of the most important events for our industry……But, they’ve got this move completely wrong – And, they seem to have no idea WHY its wrong…
This sponsorship deal with .XXX is a low rent move. Driven by cash, not class. A race to the bottom, in terms of image, identity, and reputation. And, a totally needless finger up the nose of the owners of those 10,000 brands, and that huge spend power…….Its a move that says someone doesn’t understand the difference between Sales – and Marketing. And, doesn’t see the bigger picture.
Oh…and, Mike…….XXX buying Ad space in mainstream media is not comparable…..A .XXX Advert on page 4 of The New York Post – or, a 30 sec TV spot – is NOT giving prominant Headline Rights on the media outlet, itself, to .XXX.
As I understand it, TRAFFIC is doing just that.
“”The owners of 10,000 brands – that spend $250 BILLION per year on marketing, Advertising & Communications – major companies – have come out just the other day, and said they object specifically to .XXX.””
“”XXX buying Ad space in mainstream media is not comparable…..A .XXX Advert on page 4 of The New York Post – or, a 30 sec TV spot – is NOT giving prominant Headline Rights on the media outlet, itself, to .XXX.”””
SO your saying major media will bitch and complain about .xxx but stuff the money in their pockets when they come knocking to buy ad space
“…SO your saying major media will bitch and complain about .xxx but stuff the money in their pockets when they come knocking to buy ad space…”
Yup…..major media will almost certainly take the cash .XXX spends in their newspapers, TV, allright……No idea if they’ll bash .XXX, at the same time.
But:
(i) .XXX will not be taking Headline Rights to the media outlet that they buy Ads in….It won’t be ‘The .XXX New York Post’…Or, ‘CBS – brought to you courtesy of .XXX’, or similar.
TRAFFIC has sold them that positioning – ie overtly linking the .XXX brand & business to that of the TRAFFIC conference brand & business. A mistake, imo. Dumbing us down.
(ii) I don’t want lead in my saddlebags if I’m negotiating a joint partnership deal with, say, Kraft, or whoever, who may be one of the actively anti-.XXX companies – and who now may see the domain industry – and all ‘domainers’ – as .XXX Adult….Not every corporate wants to do business with .xxx operators, legal or not – especially ongoing partnerships.
I don’t want the wrong label on me (on top of any other label like ‘squatter’, or ‘TM Violator’, or whatever, that we are all already trying to shake off) when I’m seeking a partnership with top corporates – just because TRAFFIC stamped that identity/image on domainers with this sponsorship. I want to be accepted , on equal terms, as an acceptable businessman.
This sponsor deal will cost some of us real money in lost opportunity, imo.
The blue print to these new tlds launching is becoming pretty apparent here isn’t it? I reckon this type of thing will begin to feel more and more like the “time share sales presentation” of the internet. Come on out to TRAFFIC, get a free buffet meal and listen to our pitch about the newest and greatest beach front internet property that you can get in on ! Wooo
Razorblade. That’s some funny stuff.
I’m no Rick Schwartz sycophant.
I can certainly appreciate the sentiment- about ‘maintaining image’ – but chalk me up in the camp of people who doesn’t see any real problem with this. So it offends a few puritan souls amongst us… You just can’t make omelets without breaking a few eggs. Ya can’t let yourself be paralyzed with fear over someone being ‘offended’. Whenever you do anything, there will be someone, somewhere, who is ‘offended’ by it.
Like it or not, adult is more than just a ‘reality’ on the net. It’s the predominant factor on the net. I personally own no (as in, zero) adult names and have no desire to swim in that end of the pool, but I see no problem with acknowledging the reality we all live in and whatever role .xxx may play in that, down the line. If a tobacco co-op sponsors a farm convention, there will be some people who are ‘offended’ by that, but most everyone else will just acknowledge it’s a segment of the industry and participate or not at their own discretion.
It’s a domain conference.
.xxx is a domain.
Don’t like it? Don’t eat their cheese at the buffet.
And as far as ‘image’ goes, proportionally more people hate domainers than watch porn… and since everyone watches porn, that basically means we’re counting the unknown life-forms from other galaxies in the “hates domainers” group.
If you’re so concerned about maintaining a politically palatable ‘image’ and being ‘liked’ by others, then a few professions aren’t for you. Cop, bouncer, debt collector, judge, lawyer, car salesman, politician, commodities speculator, repo man, banker, IRS auditor, domainer are a few I an think of off the top of my head.
Frager comment very simple- the program @Adam is Internet Traffic Frank’s parking program that has brought earning back up for 100 others due to HIS reputation. My concern was that is he pouts these domains under his name on the same servers with non-adult domains, one of which happens to be mine, my traffic score could suffer and MY income could drop. This was a self-centered post. It;s not about Elliott, Frank or anyone- just how this impacts ME and how regging them in a different name would have been better. Let the party begin. Its great idea. Call a spade a spade!
CALL A SPADE A SPADE!!
Agreed.
I watch porn as do many males in their late thirties.
I eat breakfast in the morning. Usually with my wife. As do many couples in their late thirties.
What i never say to my wife is that while she was cracking eggs in the kitchen to make a Spanish omelette, I was tossing off to a J-lo song in the shower.
Even though she knows i watch porn – sometimes its better not to talk about it.
Even though some domainers make alot of money from porn names, does not mean that domainers should be cosying up to the porn industry and have them sponsor a domainer conference.
Not something domainers should be shouting about from the conference room at the Ritz Carlton.
Nothing to do with being a prude – everything to do with making prudent decisions about a sensitive area of the industry that needs careful managing.
To .xxx, this will be a great deal, to the domaining industry – it will be another black eye.
@LS
“proportionally more people hate domainers than watch porn… ”
Very nice –
And so the domain business goes full cirlce. The guys at the top all started in porn (schwartz, solares, others) and now its coming back. Perfect fit.
Full
Just for the record, again since your calling people out in the domain industry who started by owning adult domains, I would be on that list as well.
Is a happy ending part of the program?
Sorry couldn’t resist. 🙂
@ Schwartz who says “Domainers that look the other way when they do things that are bad because they are their FRIENDS hurt the industry more than anything .xxx can do”
Shut your cake hole you clown. Wasn’t it common for tm an typo names to be traded freely on your forum. Wasn’t it a haven for some of the biggest cybersquatters in the world. IT WAS AND YOU KNOW IT. You turned a blind eye then. Why? Oh yeah, you took a commission on all the domain names sold on your forum. You profited from the very things you now supposedly stand against. Look ass clown, everyone knows what you and your once disbarred lawyer partner are like. The tm holders must love the xxx sponsorship. Like Howard says sign ups are booming. What better place for tm holders to serve writs on the creeps they want to sue than at your conference. There may be a record number of process servers in attendance this time cause all the best scum will be there. I wouldn’t attend if it were free.
They owned way more than adult names MB. They traded in and profited off of tm names as well. Crooks by any definition of the word
“Wasn’t it common for tm an typo names to be traded freely on your forum. Wasn’t it a haven for some of the biggest cybersquatters in the world.”
Anything but and you know it! That’s why you can’t put YOUR name on those libelous words. You know you are the one that has problems. Go back to the rock you crawled out under from or put you name up for us all to know what a moron really looks like.
Folks worried about the “Industry”……It is this CRAP and FRIENDS like THIS that are giving the industry a bad name but stay silent because it is not YOU!
Shwartz, i dont think anyone is capable of giving the industry a worse name than yourself. You behave like a kid, swear like a sailor, try and ruin other people’s reps or competing conferences (Chef Patrick, Domainfest, Kupietsky just a few recent examples) and have by far the worst dress sense i can think of .
DOMAIN KING??? or DRAMA QUEEN??? ……every other week you are spouting off at ‘pigeon shit’ this and ‘pigeon shit’ that…… ‘more to come folks’ this and ‘i have been sworn to secrecy’ that…..GET A LIFE……
Can’t put your name on those libelous words…Well if any one knows about slander and libel it’d be you. The plastic surgury domain provides recent proof. Well, as they say jerk, time will tell. In the end it will all come out and the written word will be proof positive of the skullduggery and douchebagginess that you were at the very least responsible for in part and that you did indeed profit from the actions of others on your forum. We’ll see, the written word is after all hard to dispute.
“Domainers that look the other way when they do things that are bad because they are their FRIENDS hurt the industry more than anything .xxx can do”
There are a few nominees on the TRAFFIC awards list that could surely fit this bill
There’s a lot of “turning a blind eye” in this business and throwing rocks in a glass house isn’t going to fix it. Lets not pretend.
Winning! Sig Solares – Domainer of the Year
Love it. Isn’t Bill Kara the keynote speaker. One of the best choices ever. First of all Bill is a domainer unlike say Ben Stein or Steve Forbes which should enable him to connect with the audience better than the others who have delivered the keynote previously and on top of that probably every person in attendance owns a typo of addicting games (originally registered and developed by Bill and perhaps one of the most squatted domains out there) which will have the audience hanging on his every word so they can go out and register the corresponding typos so they can trade off of his next venture!
@LS Morgan…
“…If you’re so concerned about maintaining a politically palatable ‘image’ and being ‘liked’ by others…”
Don’t be an ass, LS…..This is not about being ‘liked’, or political correctness….Its about the consequences of dumb moves….and, the blindness of not to be able to understand how the real world works…..Reputation, in business, matters.
And, its not about owning Adult domains, in a portfolio.
…Its about the fleas you get up with when you get into bed with a dingo….And, the stench that stays with you…
I wasn’t deliberately being an ‘ass’ as much as I was pointing out that domain “investing” is the sort of game where one must have thick skin. All speculating is like this.
“…I was pointing out that domain “investing” is the sort of game where one must have thick skin. All speculating is like this…”
Indeed one does – and, it is…. 🙂