CNBC Had a 5 minutes + segment on Squawk On The Street” on the new gTLD program and .XXX on Tuesday entitled “Has the Internet outgrown .Com”
“The segment discussed whether adding more domains for websites will have big implications for both consumers and companies.”
Ben Crawford of Central Nic and Dot Brand Solutions and Josh Bourne, the head of the The Coalition Against Domain Name Abuse (CADNA).
“Josh I had no idea domain names were being abused.” said the host of the show
Josh Borne said:
“Well they have been.”
“Domain names have grown to almost 210 million registrations worldwide, basically the reason is because it pays so much to to use brand names to confuse consumers and trick them into harmful scenarios.”
Should there be a .XXX domain? Asked the host:
Mr. Borne replied:
“No one was for .XXX, the right, the left, even the adult entertainment industry .
However, those in the domain industry believes they can sell a lot of domain names to brand owners who don’t want their brand associated with .XXX or the adult entertainment industry who are happy using the .Com they have now and don’t want their content blocked”
“No one wanted its other than the companies that want to sell the domains.”
Mr. Crawford then said:
“what brands want to do is to allow brands to get their own TLD….. and give them complete control over the extension.”
Why would we not do that? asks the host:
Ben said ICANN “has been working for a couple years on this to allow these TLD’s for brands, cities and communities that want their own extension, who are ready to to apply for them as soon as ICANN fires the starting pistol.”
The co-host of the show then ask Mr. Bourne why would it cost consumers more money if these extensions are allowed? to which Bourne replied:
“Globally over 90% of all Internet traffic is going to .Com. sites”
“With the huge amount of third party infringement domains, we know parties that ownn 30,000, 40,000 and 50,000 third party infringements its hard to protect consumers from fraud, they expect in the near future 20 times more extensions and there is no chance that companies can keep up with it.”
“In a world where consumers know to go to a .brands only is 5, 10 15 years away you have to undo and retrain people how to navigate the Internet.”
The co-host concluded:
“Although If there was one group who would know what they wanted to seek out, it would be those seeking out .xxx”
Its an interesting discussion and you should check out the video tape which you can do by clicking here.
Mr. Bourne’s argument is heavily skewed in favor of the trademark groups as always.
He said that there are 210 domain registration worldwide, because of all the trademark infringing domains, but then says that 90% of the traffic goes to the .Com extension, which as we know only accounts for half of all domain registrations or 105 Million.
So there is a logically disconnect.
To attributed the vast majority of worldwide domain registrations to trademark infringing domain is simply ridiculous and undermines Mr. Bourne’s argument.
“Has the Internet outgrown .Com” ?
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or
Has the Internet **imploded** on .COM ?
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What if .COM becomes “the Root” and software just removes it, but people know it is there.
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What do people think of those _Under_Lines_ in .COM names ?
Hello Mike,
If anyone thinks this tiny little opinion will somehow take the .COM Channels dominance away, you are inhaling some of the smoke that is being blown up your ass in this post.
Utterly ridiculous and unfounded opinion.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
“you have to undo and retrain people how to navigate the Internet”
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or, just wait for the next generation of .KIDS who will ignore all the nonsense and build a better Internet that routes around .COM
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wonder if the next generation of “the Internet” will use TCP ? UDP-lite & IP work
I’d like to hear the opinion of TheBigLieSociety and Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger) before forming my own.
That’s the only way to truly decide this issue.
SL
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those who hate the xxx TLD seem ignore that lots of non-xxx p0rn sites already exist
Ok, at the risk of being offtopic, let me ask a serious question.
Can someone translate the entirety of BigLie’s posts into a coherent summary? Something that succinctly states what his point is?
Again, it’s a serious question because I like to keep an open mind. There may indeed be something important that he is seeing but the tinfoil hat is preventing him from expressing it clearly.
And whatever it is, it appears to be related to the proliferation of new xTLDs.
“I’d like to hear the opinion of TheBigLieSociety”
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According to one insider, TheBigLieSociety has no opinion, it is a “HIVE.MIND”
There is a viral video around that shows small honey bees ((baking)) a visiting hornet by raising the temperature one degree above the tolerance level
.XXX is in the oven
Imagine 52 people creating and sustaining an Internet Eco.System, for their collective benefit, while telling the world, “they are serving the public good”. Imagine the world, unable to put 2 and 2 together, to observe the collective actions of those 52 people. Imagine that the 52 people are never seen together and rarely expose their nefarious inter-actions. How do they do it?
Jeff…..you should change your company name to Metal Liger from Metal Tiger b/c as everyone knows a Liger is much cooler than a Tiger. 🙂
It seems to me that Big Lie’s basic deal is that he seems to believe in alternative root system, which will eventually over take the normal root, therefore your domains are worthless.
I give up.
More censoring of this blog – always interesting to see what is deleted.
Big Lie
You cannot post 20 comments on every post having nothing to do with the topic
Yes if I can’t make heads or tails of what someone is talking about the comment is coming down.
Ever hear of a radio host Jim Rome?
Have a take and do not suck
That rule is in effect
(off topic)
Before radio tuning was digital, you had to dial it in.
And, it would fade in and out. You had to re-adjust the frequency.
Sometimes when I read some comments, I swear “I am out of tune”.
And, the comments are just garbled comments.
Most of the time, I think it must be just me.
(Or, I may have too many distractions while reading.)
It appears that some of us are on different wavelengths.
🙂
always interesting to see what is deleted…unfortunately, most people do not see what YOU (or others?) delete…
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Your BLOG…your SPIN Machine
No others delete just me.
Yes my blog and yes comments must make sense and no one can hijack the blog by posting 20 incoherent comments on each post
Your BLOG…your SPIN Machine…good luck with it and your 75,000 domains
In the current system over the last 20 years or so the majority of the most problematic/desirable names have been transfered either to their “natural” owners or the most economically powerful.
In ICANN’s proposed system all of the names have yet to be allocated so there will be lots more problems. The Trademark constituency have much more lobbying power than other groups this means it is far more likely the proposed new system will ultimately be skewed in the trademark lobby’s favour.
As with many things relating to new gTLDs this will likely prove over time to be bad for existing domain name owners when others want to take their property away.
Other consequences of new gTLDs will also almost certainly be bad for existing domain owners when the existing Registries request equal treatment with the new gTLD registries.
Lots of big issues, most of those hoping to profit from new gTLDs are on the whole quite quiet about. E.g. price caps, variable pricing, expiring domains, vertical integration,
sunrise / re release pricing etc.
Won’t happen overnight but already the smaller registries are requesting changes
http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/neuman-to-beckstrom-10mar11-en.pdf
@MHB,
How about adding a live-chat section to each article?
Vegas
Interesting idea
But I don’t have to time to watch this 24/7
Have Big-Lie Mod for you – it seems to be here 24/7 🙂
“I had no idea domain names were being abused.”
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BORN AGAIN – Lawyers waiting to help YOU prove you really own a .COM ?
The only people that think “The internet has outgrown .COM” are those who stand to gain financially from the new extensions. Domain bloggers who are involved in creating a new extension also clearly fit this bill …..
All this BS talking of other extensions make dot com more valuable.
“talking of other extensions make dot com more valuable”
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When EACH .COM domain costs $1,000 per year to “Register”
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How will that impact people with 75,000 domains ?
The contract with Verisign to run the .com registry is up for renewal in 2012 and will be every 6 years with presumptive renewal until Verisign screws up bit time.
They sky is not falling and price caps are still in place.
You can do that math at 7% increase 4 out of every 6 years the price one day will be $1,000 but not in any of our lifetimes.
@MHB: You’re incorrect.
BLS is referring to the .com renewal cost on Planet Zulunu where he currently resides. It is indeed $1000 per year there.
“The contract with Verisign to run the .com registry…”
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The Verisign Component of the $1,000 .COM Annual Maintenance Budget is expected to be under $25/year.
There are many other “Components” to establish your .COM Title(s) to intangible digital assets backed by an unbroken chain of custody from inception to the current holder(s).
Were you invited to any of the meetings while in California ?
By the way…on many “Planets” and in the Real DNS…
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TheDomains.COM does NOT have an SOA RR
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the domain will NOT resolve on some systems without an SOA
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I hope .com’s do go to $1,000 – this would push 99% of the CRAP right off the web. Bring it on, baby!
Big Lie
Thought you quit this morning
Is thedomains.com like crack?
You Can’t quit?
I just bought rehabclinics.com at the Domain Roundtable.
“”Were you invited to any of the meetings while in California ?””
I went to the VeriSign party (very nice)
Neustar party (very nice)
.Fm party.
Had about 20 meetings with registries, new gTLD applicants and registrars.
If there were secret meetings where fate of the Internet was decided Unfortunately I was not invited.
In full disclosure I went out for some drinks with some domainers and we were just 1/2 block away from a shooting where 5 people got shot up. (you would know that if you were on my Facebook page, but that clearly is not going to happen).
No I don’t think they were targeting the domainers
SL
I LOVE Planet Zulunu
The Food is not too great though
“I hope .com’s do go to $1,000 – this would push 99% of the CRAP right off the web”
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It would all be “Cost Recovery” of course. Apparently, the GAC and expert economists paid to study the .COM market have arrived at the $1,000 per year Annual Maintenance Cost via different paths.
Of more concern may be the logistics of “owning” a .COM. The DNSSEC and IPv6 requirements can continue to drive the costs up. Apparently, people have not been invited to the (secretive) Key Escrow Ceremonies.
One would think .COM owners with a lot of domains would be invited. Registrars are apparently invited to secret meetings of “contracted parties”. As a group, they should benefit from $1,000 per year Annual Fees.
*click*
It all makes sense now.
BigLie is an altroot guy.
LS
exactly
@LS: This is proof that the Zulunian altrooters *can* be fooled into revealing their true identities. QED.
Though I wonder if there are more in our midst?
Shazbot
Na-Nu Na-Nu from the planet Ork, we come in .peace 🙂
“Had about 20 meetings with registries, new gTLD applicants and registrars.”
Question: can you not see how this (your involvement in promoting and creating new extensions) makes anything you write about gTLD’s (i.e. this article) biased and NOT objective, at least in the eyes of domainers, your main audience ?
Does anyone read the posts before they go live? There are many grammatical mistakes that could easily be fixed with a little care. It really reduces the perceived value of the writer.
Maybe Big Lie could help with this too?
Big Lie
I got some organic marijuana if you like
BullS aka MarijuanaGuy.com
working on opening a medical marijuana dispensary soon!!!
Well Pete you can choose not to read the blog and then you won’t have to worry about that. Maybe you, the jerk off topic Big Lie and the English teacher Tom can start your own blog.
” There are many grammatical mistakes that could easily be fixed with a little care”
Are you assuming I know when I make a grammatical errar?
“Well Pete you can choose not to read the blog and then you won’t have to worry about that. Maybe you, the jerk off topic Big Lie and the English teacher Tom can start your own blog.”
Nah, I like this blog, it’s informative. Just not the gTLD circle-jerk.
I think you have to look at whether you believe all these Gtld are coming, and will they affect current tld value.
Consumer has been programmed into the .com internet space – THE brand of the Internet regardless how they get there – apps, icons – I-Phone, I-Whatever.
– even if the URL is buried – it is still what identifies te business and what is needed to advertise and market the business in all media sources.
Everything else is frustrated “Sqweek” on the street