According to an article, New Whales is going for the .CYM extension for a Welsh websites.
South Wales West AM Bethan Jenkins said the ICANN annoucement:
“could, in effect, pave the way for the dotCYM domain name to be used for Welsh website addresses. It’s important that the world has access to everything that Wales has to offer and I believe that a dot CYM web address would be one way of achieving this.”
Fresh popcorn, anyone?
The show will be starting shortly.
David
No offense but I like T.O.’s “get your popcorn ready” better
I have a few more great ideas:
.c0m (thats a zero…)
.met
.0rg (zero again)
.imfo
.nobi
Better yet, for those of you who love PPC and only PPC,
Would be a brilliant idea to pull together and apply for .CIM and .CPM. Great typos……millions of hits…..
If .CM get millions, these are bound to do the same.
I know domainers are already moving on this opportunity in stealth mode…..
Again, this is one of the secret deals in the works. 🙂
PS, I am sure there will be a bidding war for these two extensions among domainers under false business names. Of course this is all my opinion, and all domainers have great ethics right? 🙂
Steve
You might be right about multiple applicant for those 2 extensions.
Trademark holder should be very concerned
Confusing vTLDs like dotCm and dotComm will not be allowed.
Heard it from the horse’s mouth.
Excuse me, I meant just dotComm.
What defines “confusing”? {If its anything like what WIPO wrestles with, even educated arbitrators can be confused. Regularly. If there is a company or TM using CIM or CPM, seems it would have a valid claim to apply. Cameroon was not denied .cm because of confusion with .com, neither was Columbia with .co. And there seems to be little stopping the applied confusion on .cm either.}
jblack,
It will come down to who moves first and smartly.
ICANN is not going to go out and give notice to every TM holder in the world.
These 2 extensions .CIM and .CPM will be interesting to watch and fun guessing who is applying/bidding for them. 🙂
I don’t expect for anyone to get refused by ICANN as long as they bring their bank with them.
However I do think these extension will wind up just like .CM being a vehicle for trademark infringement and typo traffic.
So if this is problem that people are seeking to curtail, none of these new three letter extension will do anything but increase the problem
PS,
These are the only 2 valuable vTLDs, besides .sex maybe, that would be well worth $100,000 fee. These 2 have instant value. Would anyone disagree with this?
Surprised no one brought this to light over the past week.
Mike, seems a couple of the few dozen TM holders for “CPM” or “CIM” (depending on Goods and Services) would be salivating rather than being concerned. Maybe an infringement suit or settlement.
On a related note, there are real benefits for foreign language extensions (Chinese, Russian, Arabic, etc) and its understandable why some nations would want them.
There’s some info about ICANN’s guidelines for vTLDs on their web site.
You people ROCK.
People entering the domain name market now are out of step what will happen when all the other domain name ext. come out (people will be lost in the milky way online).
I think managing such extensions as .CIM or CPM can be rather easy when dealing with TM Companies, depending on ICANNs policies.
If it is authorize (Which it may if .cm is doing it), put a page up for every domain that states, If you are the Trade Mark holder for this domain, please register it at—– or please contact us. Of course on the bottom of the message will be PPC links.
Another option, that I would do, is run a script with the TM database and reserve all TM names that are not generics. Only 1 level TMs, and not names ebayhotel.cim, etc.
It would be daunting task, however, the rewards would be very rewarding for doing things the right way, versus waiting for them to come to you. Then you could have a sales team approach each company to register each name and add to your bottom line.
Alot of work will have to be done in order to do things right or at least responsibly. That is the keyword with all these new vTLDs, responsible management. IMO
who’s up for a group purchase 🙂
Don’t forget the other dotcomtypos: .xom, .vom, .con and .om.
So they’ll be at least 6 sought after TLD’s, not 2.
It doesn’t seem right that so much power is in the hands of a few people (ICANN). There should be some kind of checks and balances system put in place.
Might be fairly easy for a company called CPM to apply and assuming approval just wildcard the extension immaterial of any specific TMs. After all, wildcarding the dns for subdomains of .com already has legal standing. Group purchase would probably appeal to some.
All interested domainers should unite under a shell company, Domainers United, LLC, or whatever, so we don’t bid against each other. The TM issue could be averted by doing what Kevin Ham did with .cm, ie, wildcarding all traffic to a single page without having to register actual .cm domains. Imagine the traffic from redirecting all .cpm, cim, .xom, .vom, .con and .om traffic to a single website. Can you say google killer? At least major google competitor almost over night and for the cost of under a mil if we stick together.
Tony,
Yes, those examples you listed are others for sure. 5 extensions=$500,000 minimum
A fractional ownership group would be nice, but you know no one wants to share all that revenue with a large group. This is an individual industry. 🙂
I do not think ICANN will approve .con, confusing to .com, so really 5 extensions with built in profit. I would imagine that each would generate over $100k in 3-6 months time. That is being optimistic. Would earn much more than likely.
I do see small groups or 2-3 domainers doing this. My first choice would be .cim. then .cpm, then .xom.
People are trained with “c” beginning. An example, if I type domain.xom, I know immediately it is wrong, however, if I type domain.cim, I am more inclined to hit enter and proceed. The “c” is branded as the beginning, if that makes sense. I think you know what I mean.
Check this one out:
FaceBook.cm
and yes, Facebook is a TM…
so how is Kevin Ham getting away with this?
and just fyi MySpace.cm wont work…
Steve
I think many there are 50 extensions that are well worth 100K++++ and many of them will go for $+++.
Including .nyc, .sports, .realestate, .paris, .movies, .news .stop (or .store) just to name a handful.
Corporate bands I expect to see include .MTV (how many teens and younger would love to have an e-mal address ending in .mtv), facebook, myspace, .fox just to name a few.
MHB,
Agree with you 100%. What I am saying is the extensions I have mentioned will have automatic revenue coming in from day one with a wildcard just from typos and a PPC template.
None of the others will have this. As discussed earlier by Tony, a total of 6 really have major opportunity to bring in instant revenue without selling one domain.
Another thought, .org, typos for this one as well will be lucrative as well. .otg, .oeg as examples. .net .met, .bet etc.
.com is the most lucrative however. IMO
I am not looking at the examples I gave as registering these out to individuals. Let say it takes you 6-1 year to get things set up so you can sell the extensions, it may be possible that you can have a PPC template up all this time while you are “Preparing your services/platform”
There are definitely many others worth $100k for those with the right business plan and marketing tools.
MHB:
Unless I’m mistaken, the best way for someone to have an MTV email is something like Kathy@MTV.com.
If the vTLD is dotMTV wouldn’t the email look something like Kathy@email.MTV?
David
I think mail@kathy.MTV would be better.
Then kathy can have a my space like page using kathy.mtv
You’ve just hit upon the crux of the whole situation.
I would tend to agree with you, but you and I (and everybody else on this blog) are WAY ahead of the curve. Not a little ahead. Way, way ahead. Believe me, I know. The one thing you learn with selling advertising to the public is EXACTLY how well they know and utilize the Internet. And let me tell you, you can’t even begin to dumb it down far enough just to hit the medium.
In the past ten years, the general population has become used to the idea that you put your name before the @ sign in your email address. Now you’re expecting them to learn differently.
Should be simple, right?
We’ll see.
Good point MHB. Major Brands are the only ones who can make this an instant success for their networks.
As I have stated in past posts here on different topics.
Many people do not understand just how powerful these brands are and the marketing they have built in. It has taken decades for them to build their brands and now they “may” be able to dominate the internet with their brand, without owning a .com or in this case, many owning the .com too.
I wish we had some major madison avenue reps join in the discussion. I know Own Frager has given his input, but I really think their is more to the equation that is possible. “BUT THAT IS THE BIG IF”
The only way to tell is if major brands move and others like it move in.
On a different note,
Ron published his newsletter and he was really pushing how everyone thinks this will go nowhere with everyone who gave their opinion in the newsletter. However, he did state a great closing about wishing everyone success no matter what. http://www.dnjournal.com/newsletters/2008/june.htm
That is why industry blogs are great, as we can add a variety of colors to a blank canvas or half finished one.
Rick had this to say in DNjournal.com’s newsletter.
I think it is a little naive to say it will take 10 years before we see anything occur with these .tlds and they will not be result into anything IMO. But Rick does have a track record for being right about some things.
Via Rick Schwartz.
“This is the biggest nothing I have seen in quite some time. It won’t affect anything for 10 years and when it all kicks in, it will cost traffic to .com…ZIPPO. It may even increase it as folks become more aware of the browser bar and direct navigation.”
“I am amazed with the energy going into this, but that same energy would be better spent dealing with the here and now while our “Partners” are giving us the shaft. THAT my friends is 1,000,000,000 times the threat that this nonsense will ever be. This is not happening tomorrow. Odds are it won’t even happen next year. There will be serious opposition. There may be lawsuits filed. The devil is in the details and this is not user friendly. Much ado about nothing from where I sit right now,” Schwartz concluded.
David
You got a good point.
There is going to be a big learning curve on these new extensions
Steve
I would never bet against Rick
MHB,
Yeah, he has a great track record. Was not betting against him, just stating that predicting 10 years is a long time for a TLD to take off, well is long.
And it may seem after your recent post on the criteria, he may be 100% right about taking 10 years. 🙂