According to ntldstats.com, .XYZ has more domain registrations than all of Donuts strings combined.
Donuts has 1,527,510 domain registrations according to ntldstats.com (including 35,306 which are upcoming delete) while .XYZ has 1,560,576 active domains according to namestat.org.
There are 183 new gTLD’s of Donuts in general availability (GA) meaning they can be registered on a first come first served basis
The most registered Donuts new gTLD is .Guru with over 67,000 registrations.
The least registered Donuts new gTLD in GA is .memorial which has just 453 registrations.
It cost Donuts $185,000 to apply with ICANN for each of the 183 new gTLD’s which totals almost $34 Million dollars. Many of these new domain extension were applied for by others meaning that Donuts had to win them some of them in auction.
.XYZ cost $185,000 to apply to ICANN and as there were no other applications there was no auction.
Each new gTLD carries an annual minimum cost $25,000 meaning it will cost Donuts over $4.5 million a year just in ICANN fees.
(Note: Donuts has more than 183 new domain strings but only 183 are fully launched into GA)
Actually the 4 new gTLD’s with the most registrations, .XYZ, .Top, .Wang and .Win all had a single application filed with ICANN.
Those 4 extensions have a total of over 3.5 million registrations or around 35% of all new gTLD registrations.
Of course the business model for .XYZ, .Top, .Wang and .Win are all quite different from Donuts which includes premium domain name registration and renewals.
But the numbers all around are sure interesting.
Memory says
.Xyz owner artificially slain the registry volume ..and any consequences from ICANN : (
Timothy Mayeur says
Memory, debatable as anything that was done through Marketing gimmicks would have come up & passed for renewal stage already. You can see the dip when a lot of those initial gimmicks have wore off and they are still top ranked. So that doesn’t really bode as an excuse or rationalization for the high registrations as much anymore.
William says
Donuts has span the dot names which could eventually be preferable to .com. There aren’t any span the dot xyz names. Home.Loans is likely to be far and away more valuable than HomeLoans.xyz in my opinion.
Spencer says
Daniel Negari has my respect
Joseph Peterson says
The bagger at the grocery store has my respect. Daniel Negari, as far as I’m concerned, merits only disdain and contempt.
No Name for Now says
So, you are a Domain Name Consultant?
And, you constantly post disparaging comments about the industry and its participants?
Sometimes it’s better to just let the chips fall (or not fall) and let events take their natural course.
I really don’t care if you like your grocery bagger.
Joseph Peterson says
@Anonymous Coward,
My grocery bagger doesn’t care if you don’t care that I like him/her.
And my clients pay me to give them honest advice – not to pretend that everybody in the domain industry is honest.
Domain Shame says
Good one Joseph I’m not sure why you being a domain consultant has anything to do with critiquing the industry of course you should critique the industry.
Joseph Peterson says
@Domain Shame,
Made no sense to me either. Almost sounds like somebody blames me for the recent decline in CHIP prices. Flattering, but I didn’t cause the fall – just predict it. But people with money at stake in the status quo are seldom fans of those of us who rocks the boat.
@PotentialNames says
Its obvious @No Name for Now is Daniel Negari himself. Check some of his write-ups, very similar style of writing.
So much have been said about Daniel’s shadiness in the industry, there’s nothing to respect about his person or dealings; but the success (and publicity) of .xyz is admirable, even by other registries.
Eric says
.Dumb and .Dumber
Domain Observer says
Sell to China cheap.
Michael Berkens says
Joseph
why is that?
Joseph Peterson says
@Michael Berkens,
If someone attempts to deceive others in pursuit of ambition or greed, then I will despise him for it. Simple as that.
Maybe you don’t think Negari ever attempted to deceive the public, but in my judgment he did. Undoubtedly, many people respect financial success, but I find nothing in it to admire apart from skill and hard work; and even those matter little to me without integrity.
Everybody has his own opinions and standards. Those happen to be mine.
Spencer says
“It does not matter HOW you win so long as you win.”
– Donald J. Trump
Joseph Peterson says
@Spencer,
Unsurprisingly, Donald Trump and I are not kindred spirits.
Not everyone will describe Trump as a “winner”, however he regards himself.
Ramahn says
Joseph, you have my respect my friend. I agree 100%
Michael Berkens says
Lets remember that all the “free” domain cycled through so they are either dropped or renewed and if renewed they were not on auto renew
Rich says
I agree with joseph .
The way he started his extension it’s morally wrong.
It doesn’t matter now if people renewed their names or not or if they dropped.He lost Domainer’s credibility.
.xuz it’s worthless
Rich says
I agree with joseph .
The way he started his extension it’s morally wrong.
It doesn’t matter now if people renewed their names or not or if they dropped.He lost Domainer’s credibility.
.xyz it’s worthless
Spencer says
All I know is is that Daniel WON in my book.
That said. the domaining ‘industry’ lost [that I agree with.
I see so many domains that have taken a pounding with these new G’s [look at dance.org for example which 5 years ago was a 50k name]. Really have seen like 90% value come off the .net & .org
So .xyz will be worth what???? even if it succeeds?
Good for registrars and Daniel. Not good for domain Industry,
Also,….google algo changes have made even owning generic keywords not worth the high price they once were.
the pigeon shit bubble from China is numerics and goobledygook [no pun intended] short n’s is masking the implosion of the domain investment…..IMVHO.
But good for Daniel !!!
Joseph Peterson says
@Spencer,
The Western market for domains remains quite vibrant, actually.
Domainer attention has been preoccupied first by the nTLDs and then by China. Parking has been in decline for at least half a decade, and Google algorithm changes have shifted the emphasis away from exact-match longtails. So the wholesale prices for English keyword domains have dipped in some quarters during the last 2 years. Simply a function of domainer spending being diverted. But that’s the wholesale market … domainer-to-domainer sales.
Each week, the charts are full of Western-style domains selling for hefty prices in the retail market. Many more aren’t reported. As a buyer’s broker, I can attest to the fact that end users still want good domains and still pay.
Spencer says
Western keyword generics .com’s Domains still sell that I agree with but like30% – 50% off the 08′ -11′ highs.
I honestly think the market in what I buy [.com keyword generics] as a disaster.
Have picked up some .net’s when they look like pure gold and are only 5% of the estibot value.
Spencer says
Looking at keywords .com’s in Flippa is a sad sad thing. Lol.
Joseph Peterson says
@Spencer,
The way that domains are valued and change hands these days is a dysfunctional mess. That’s for sure. Fast forward 10 years; and we’ll wonder how we put up with such inequitable distribution channels, why we wasted so much money and time chasing glittering promotions, or how we got by with so little liquidity.
Ojohn says
The truth of the matter (in my opinion) is that a lot of the New gTLD applicants even though were mostly domain Industry veterans but acted more like newbie domainers when it came to the quality and quantity of their selections and as such they now have to go through a learning curve in order to find out what business model works best for them.
We are now at very beginning of the New gTLD era and from past experiences with the older extensions it will be logical to assume that many different business models will emerge in the future that perhaps no one has thought of yet.
For example a lot of people are currently after second level short domains since they have recently become so popular with the Chinese because of their rarity but what’s holding a Chinese millionaire (or anyone else for that matter) to apply for the same three character New gTLDs in the second round of the gTLD release. We might end up with a New Top Level Domain for every three or four character string that is currently popular as a Second Level Domain.
This is Just my personal perspective as a domain enthusiast and hobbyist, I am more interested in keyword domains that I can use to express my ideas and or opinion such as CleanEnergy.Technology or SuperComputer. Technology which I have recently registered.
Bill Kara says
I think if the Chinese retail consumer looks at xyz as an alternative to dot com (and this appear to be in the early stages) you will see xyz simply explode. It’s the real life American dream unfolding, take an idea that most people bet against, have a vision, work hard to execute it … who knows where this ends.
@Joe I think a questionable marketing campaign hardly justifies your reply. Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, Evan Spiegel, Travis Kalanick list will go on and on… virtually all of them have controversial points in their careers. It’s never a straight line to success.
Spencer says
Alternative to .com whether .net in USA or .xyz in China
will always be just that,…an alternative because he/she couldnt get the .com.
Joseph Peterson says
@Bill,
You’re free to disagree with me. But I wouldn’t see lying to consumers merely as a zigzag toward success.
Domain Observer says
I would put XYZ as a clear example of noise marketing if I were to write an economy book. Regardless of its success or failure. The more one is praised/attacked/criticized on the mass media, it is clear the more attention one gets in a good/bad/mixed sense. And then what? Consumers will decided. Another point is that they have done a remarkable job in attacking Asian market, particularly China and Japan.
Joseph Peterson says
@Domain Observer,
Spot on. Just count the headlines .XYZ has garnered here at TheDomains – far out of proportion to its real relevance to the industry. But controversy generates buzz.
@Michael Berkens,
That’s no criticism of you. After all, you broke the news about registrar stuffing.
Still, it is interesting that both Donald Trump and Daniel Negari are mentioned together in the same discussion. Both exploit the media to get attention.
janedoe says
.XYZ is a shit extension, but at this point it is obviously going to be successful irrelevant of how it started.
Whether or not it will hold aftermarket value is another matter entirely, dependent upon how the other extensions are priced and marketed towards the end user.
But the final determining factor will be in what happens with the next round of gtlds we may see a few years from now. This will be the point that could well see .XYZ collapse as far as aftermarket valuations go unless .XYZ can gain traction in the end user arena (other extensions with actual niche meaning will have value, but again, end use will matter.
M. Menius says
My expectation has been that from all this chaos there would eventually emerge some logical extensions that actually add to the internet experience. The example I like to use (there are many) is Miami.condos. What a perfect domain name.
For all these new extensions to offer a real benefit beyond the hype & buzz, you need companies willing to market with them due to their clean generic nature, and consumers who make the connection that descriptive words on the left & right of the dot equates to exactly what they were searching for.
In the case of Miami.condos, all the factors come together. With the non-specific tld’s like .xyz or .link, I see these as a new version of .net – sort of a catchall category that does not enhance the specificity of the domain name. That’s not a criticism, just an observation that the right side of the dot doesn’t really tell you anything about the domain name itself.
SoFreeDomains says
Whatever we all say here, I’m sure Mr Negari will be grateful to Google for this success story.
Ben says
I’m surprised this article doesn’t mention .XYZ domains were given away for free. Anyone who follows the domain industry closely knows .XYZ’s registration numbers are an inflated illusion. I’d also argue registration volume isn’t always a direct indicator of value. Each TLD has its own merits for success.
Michael Berkens says
Ben
The free stuffed domains are not mentioned because as i said earlier in the comments those domain names have now all cycled through so they were either dropped and no longer included or are now a paid renewal and again to note that none of the free domains were set up for auto renew so those that turned into paid registrations were done overtly by the owner of the domain name.
Michael Berkens says
William
The value a domain has in the aftermarket is a completely different issue.
Steve says
As mentioned on the leading domain blogging site, domainnamewire.com, there’s been much “pumping & dumping” of domains, and I believe the evangelists should face the consequences of these actions, whether that be sanctions, depositions, or legal ramifications, including but not limited, to penalties
Steve says
These “pumpers” are motivated by greed only.
Let us hope an investigative journalist will provide evidence and data substantiating negligible, if not unethical and unsavory practices, and help us return to a clean environment in the domain industry.
The great ones, the honorable ones, Rich Schwartz, Kevin Lam, and others have retired.
We need leaders in the industry, like Mr. Jackson at Domain Name Journal, who are not motivated ONLY by quick profits, notwithstanding maintaining integrity, honor and veracity.
Domain Shame says
First off the domains is the number one domain blog in the industry by traffic and everything else. number two it’s Kevin ham not lam and I don’t think wild carding the dot cm extension really showed integrity.
Steve says
@DomainShame
This is an excellent blog — I have much respect for Michael Berlkins; I have met him and his lovely wife at domain events.
Excuse the typo; Lam, not typo.
But I have no idea what your point is. ” I don’t think wild carding the dot cm extension showed integrity.”
I don’t care what you think, based on your prior non-informative and mostly inflammatory remarks. So take a hike, cretin.,
Domain Shame says
I certainly don’t care what you think neophyte.
AUS31 says
I can smell the fear a mile away, admit it, you are scared shitless that your meaningless .coms will evaporate and turn your portfolios into dust. It’s going to happen guys, better adapt now or at least invest in it, some of you are just allowing a good thing to pass by.
Joseph Peterson says
@AUS31,
Take a good sniff. What cologne am I wearing?