Roger Kay would like to see ICANN slow down, Kay has written about the new gtld program on Forbes a few times. Today he is out with an article that basically says ICANN should hit the brakes. The greatest expansion so far is confusion. He discusses compatability problems and names not working universally on every platform and every device.
From the article:
One of the biggest problems is compatibility. That is, a lot of the new domain names don’t work with existing devices and software. Browsers don’t handle the new suffixes consistently or as expected, mail systems sometimes reject them as invalid, and some enterprise software generates unpredictable errors, which may requiring significant revisions to fix.
At an ICANN meeting in Singapore in February, a working group charged with sorting out the problem of “universal acceptance” admitted that the prospect of mass incompatibility is scary. Brent London, Google GOOGL +2.26%’s representative in the working group, put it pretty straightforwardly: “New types of domains and email addresses break stuff. Just to send an email from one person to another, you’d find yourself in a situation where an operating system, mail servers, routers, mail service providers, security software, all need to work properly.” And with the new suffixes, sometimes they don’t.
The industry is facing these problems because most software, device drivers, and firmware were written before this new explosion in complexity, when domains had only two- or three-character suffixes. Because there were fewer of them, and they were more uniform, the old suffixes were easier to test and support. Previously, expansions in the number of domains occurred slowly, over a duration of years, and were limited to just a few at a time. As hundreds of new domains have come on stream this year with suffixes of arbitrary length — like .photography — and in different scripts — like .网址 — this complexity has become unmanageable.
Read the full article on Forbes
Its over. The stampede is a disaster.
.com is KING.
I agree with Roger Kay 100 percent ICANN is taking every 180 thousand dollar check and laughing all the way to the bank . Releasing so many GTLD’s all at once has caused mass chaos. Look at .co massive PR blitz and the extensions nowhere to be found Now we are suppose to rally around .dentist Come on ICANN should be investigated,
Hello MHB,
Rick Schwartz, has long forseen this happening and many have gone blindly to the gTLD Roulette Table. We have been trying to warn people of this DNS Nuetrality casualty for years and still there are those who think they can purchase gTLDs and hit it rich. We can see the gTLD levee breaking and knowone is running YET ??
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
Not for nothing but I also urged ICANN to limit the number of new gTLD’s years ago.
My suggestion was to limit the number of new gTLD’s to no more than a double the number of TLD that existed in the prior year
Ive said it before and I’ll say it again
Domain investors do not appear to understand how complicated it is for medium and large scale enterprises to migrate their IT systems to a new domain. It’s more than just millions of dollars, it’s getting allocated the IT resources which are typically afforded to expanding infrastructure and database interoperability on the back end and adjusting to mobile on the front end. IT resources are not as plentiful as one would think in large organizations. Often they are outsourced due to limited availability internally.
Long live the king .com
To sum up, if you want to lose emails, have unexpected problems, security holes which can hurt your business reputation go with newTLDs.
PS “Would Like To See ICANN Slow Things Down ” most newTLDs do not have even 20K registrations, if things slow down even more those guys will run out of business.
Anyway I cannot imagine they make any money now.
From a 2013 Article by Roger Kay, Founder of Endpoint Technologies……
See http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2013/09/30/small-business-extracting-more-from-an-online-presence/.
“Disclosure: Endpoint has a consulting relationship with Verisign.”
No judgments from me…..just an observation worth pointing out.
Hello MHB,
We have long been predicting Google would desert gTLD participation, and there are already signs this is a better than 50/50 chance . We personally think the chances of them yanking support are much much higher.
If this happens those who entered the gTLD Gamble because of Google support will be left swimming naked when the tide goes out. Are you feeling lucky ? We suggest divesting away from this coming Train Wreck. JAS 3/24/15
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
Who is we ? You are one person. What have you ever done in this business is there anything you can point to ? can you highlight what you’ve done in the domain business what have you sold how much money have you made ?
No one went into new GTLD’s for Google support pretty sure donuts wasn’t like hope Google supports us.
@ Jeff
I would ignore Domain Shane, not worth replying..
The system should be slowed down, as certain gtlds cannot transfer to certain registers, I cannot bulk renew them, authorization codes do not work, nothing seems to jive up right. There is no real support for these things, just roll the dice, pay your premiums, and keep your mouth shut. As they start to expire, and the cashflow starts heading in the opposite direction maybe they will start to take notice. If it wasn’t for the contention lottery the system would be much more securely rolled out.
ICANN does not care, as long as the money keeps rolling, who really cares..
@ Hello Domain Shame,
You young ignorant lions have no respect. We have close to a hundred years experience collectively, and I use my real name, and its none of your business what I own. You have found yourself dealing with a Tiger, Tigers eat little lions like you, by the way what is your real name? What are you hiding ?
““New types of domains and email addresses break stuff. Just to send an email from one person to another, you’d find yourself in a situation where an operating system, mail servers, routers, mail service providers, security software, all need to work properly.” And with the new suffixes, sometimes they don’t.”
Agree with RP and I live and breath in that corporate space every day.
.GTLD = Good To Lose Dinero
History will show shrill stories like this to be the work of desperate people with an agenda who’s relevance declines along-side the value of the investments they were tactically trying to protect. Pandora is out of her box and there’s no stopping the train she has climbed aboard now.
Frank I am a bit confused by “desperate people with an agenda who’s relevance declines along-side the value of the investments they were tactically trying to protect.”
Aren’t you bidding on those declining investments on NameJet every day ? I am not saying that with any disrespect it is out of confusion.
What is there to get?
Seriously, you just need to look at the responses to this story for an example.
As for Frank buying/selling .com even though he may feel the new extensions are the future, where there is money to be made, the smart individual plays the game, buy low, sell high. So long as a profit exists in the sale then it hasn’t been a waste and it isn’t as if .com will disappear, though value may shift around a bit.
No you missed the point, Frank did not write .com is where the money is to be made. He called it a declining investment, if he is buying something today that he thinks will decline, that is absent of logic.
there is no logic to any of this…either you like new g’s or you don’t. Frank is omnipresent.
Depends on what you register.
If you expect the value of a domain to drop to half the current value but buy the domain for less than what you expect it to fall to, then you still expect to make a profit.
If you are lucky, you will sell at a higher price.
Now, if you happen to score a category relevant domain, it should hold it’s value far better than a string of words.
So no, I didn’t miss the point.
.COM is like ocean front land, in a time of rapidly rising sea levels. I still buy that land, but I look at it differently and I pay MUCH less than I used to. This Forbes story reminds of a man moving boulders on the sand, trying to protect his client’s shrinking beach.
I agree, just a propaganda piece … Here is how this writer self describes himself..
Old, in a rut, comfortable in his analog world . http://www.forbes.com/sites/rogerkay/2014/01/23/changing-my-mind-on-google-glass/
@ Hello frank.schilling,
If this is indeed Frank Schilling ?? Oh what the hell Frank, you deserted your .COM base and sold multitudes of .Coms before the market for .COMS even matured. Whats up Frank Sour Grapes?
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
new gTLDs will take time to make their place
how long is the question…
Hello Everyone,
The chances for DNS collisions caused by the Google top level domains GTLDs will be felt most severely by the GTLD owners. Why ? Any collision outages will cause the DNS to give priority to the .COM extensions. Think not ? We all will see this happening more and more. If you are looking for a Secure place for your Online business we assure you the .COM platform is your best choice.
JAS 3/11/15
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger
R. E. = ” One of the biggest problems is compatibility. That is, a lot of the new domain names don’t work with existing devices and software. Browsers don’t handle the new suffixes consistently or as expected, mail systems sometimes reject them as invalid, and some enterprise software generates unpredictable errors, which may requiring significant revisions to fix. ”
People enamored with the Quasi-Derivative gTLD extensions, blindly ignore the fundamental and Structural operability problems that will totally obsolesce the New gTLDs.
Gratefully, Jeff Schneider (Contact Group) (Metal Tiger)
Hard to believe an article that is not accurate:
“…when domains had only two- or three-character suffixes.”
You mean like, .mobi, .info, .travel, .museum?
New gtld take-up has been slow no doubt & the DN communities can only push so far, but I have already come across working businesses who have dropped their .com’s in favour of new gtlds. (in London. UK)
I’ll not abandon .com (or .co.uk which is more relevant to my geo) – but some of these new gtlds make complete sense if they are marketed well. MOST however don’t make sense – and the poor public & businesses too will remain confused at least for a few years until stupid registries fall down.
I don’t think anyone can call the following page ‘helpful’ , ‘relevant’ or ‘a list of great options for your business’ – it’s a big ICANN mess which confuses end-users and even the more experienced.
https://www.dynadot.com/domain/tlds.html
Why’s there a .pizza and not a .pasta?
If I’m a real estate agency in London UK am I going to register my new business on:
homesweethome.property (Uniregistry)
homesweethome.properties (Donuts)
homesweethome.london (Dot London Domains Ltd)
homesweethome.house (Donuts)
homesweethome.agency (Donuts)
homesweethome.luxury (Luxury Partners, LLC)
homesweethome.rentals (Donuts)
homesweethome.lease (Donuts)
homesweethome.condos (Donuts)
homesweethome.forsale (Rightside Operating Co)
homesweethome.limited (Donuts)
homesweethome.com (Verisign)
homesweethome.net (Verisign)
homesweethome.co.uk (Nominet)
homesweethome.biz (Neustar)
homesweethome.co (.CO Internet)
homesweethome.realtor (Real Estate Domains LLC)
homesweethome.realty (Fegistry, LLC)
Adding to the hurt are the numbers on Ntldstats.com.
Realtjohnson.club is no big feat. Coffee.club is no big feat, but they both increase the profile of .club. I like that fact that one of these tld’s has had almost 200,000 registrations but SURELY there are more important and relevant words/extensions than .club, .xyz, .guru, .link, .top which are all in the top 10 extensions! .WTF! (Donuts)
What about the old .info, .biz? These have typically been seen as secondary to .com but will they make a comeback and start to make more sense? Or are they no longer relevant or innovative because they’re old? They look a LOT nicer than a .link – what the .wtf is a .link?
The day I see Kanyewest.club, Taylorswift.club, Nike.shoes, Adidas.clothing – when that happens, I’ll be able to recommend some of these new adopted extensions to my customers, friends and family. Until then they’re just risky ‘investments’. (forgive me I don’t know who Real T is)
Finally, I love hitting these forums and reading comments from grandfather domainers sticking to grandfather extensions, unable to see any value whatsoever in the new extensions. You know the ones – the guys that bought up the good dot-coms, traded them for millions and have a vested interest in the failing of new extensions. I hope some of these older domainers get off their high-horses and stop sighting past dot-com successes as the only way into the future. It’s actually embarrassing – but ALWAYS brings a smile to my face. Can there be such a thing as a new gtld domain king? Or should we see the signs & leave the domain industry to the big boys, the aging dot-com investors?
There’s nothing innovative about a dot com. There’s nothing interesting about a dot com. It’s still here and still being banged on like an old drum (yes and also still making a sh*tload of money). I can’t wait until the new extensions have thinned out, cemented their position on the web and it’s transition time. I know I might be waiting a long time.
“I can’t wait until the new extensions have thinned out, cemented their position on the web and it’s transition time. I know I might be waiting a long time.”
No, you will be waiting forever. The gtld program was a program concocted by bloody fools, designed for bloody fools and sold to bloody fools. Total waste of … dinero.