Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc. (EPE) was awarded the 20 year old domain name graceland.com by three member UDRP panel.
Its an interesting set of facts.
The domain was not parked but contained bible verses with Google Adsense which put up ads related to the former home of Elvis Presley which is now a huge tourist attraction.
The parties didn’t even agree if it was the domain owner who offered to sell the domain to the trademark holder for $200,000 or if the trademark holder offered the domain holder $200,000 for the domain.
EPE owns the domain name Graceland.org, which as the domain holder pointed out was in fact parked and not used for the tourist attraction.
Here are the relevant allegations and findings:
Complainants allegations:
The Complainant is the owner, inter alia, of registered trade marks in the USA for GRACELAND for a wide variety of goods and services. It operates a licensing program granting the right to manufacture and sell Elvis Presley related merchandise worldwide. It owns over 30 domain names containing GRACELAND including <graceland.org> and <gracelandtours.info>.
The Respondent has been involved with domain name registrations since the mid 1990s and is the owner of over 40 domain names. He has owned graceland.com since 1994 and to date has never used the registration for a legitimate purpose. Almost since its inception the website has shown bible quotes and advertisements for travel, tours and merchandise relating to Elvis Presley, specifically Graceland and related to goods and services covered by the Complainant’s trade mark registrations.
The Respondent offered to sell the Domain Name to the Complainant for over $200,000 USD which is clearly well above the Respondent’s documented out of pocket costs related to the Domain Name.
The Respondent’s submissions can be summarised as follows:
There are also generic uses of the name such as the Respondent’s use as a non-commercial Christian biblical site signifying a state of God’s grace. Grace is derived from the Latin ‘gratia’ meaning God’s favour. The Graceland Christian Church existed on the Graceland property prior to its purchase by the Respondent.
Graceland is associated with several churches, a university, an inn and conference centre, a chiropractor, a poem, an album, a TV show, a movie, a long term health provider, a funeral service, a cemetery, a financial newsletter, a vineyard, an equestrian centre, a portable building supplier, a collagen peel, a play, and jewellery, none of which are owned by the Complainant. Some uses predate the Complainant’s use, e.g. the university used the name for over 90 years before the Complainant registered its trade marks.
Respondent has used the Domain Name as a Christian biblical site since his registration of the Domain Name in 1994 almost 20 years prior to this action. Respondent put considerable investment into the site to spread God’s word. Graceland is made up of “Grace” as in the Lord’s Grace and “land” as in the desire for the Lord’s Grace to encompass the land. The website provides complete texts of the bible in English (protestant and catholic), Spanish, French, German, Italian, Dutch, Romanian, Hungarian, Korean, Chinese, Indonesian and Afrikaans as well as commentary, significant quotes and analysis.
Respondent denies that he has no rights to the Domain Name, having provided significant added value to the name he has cultivated for the past 19 years. Respondent questions the motivations of Complainant in attempting to reverse domain name hijack a name in continuous non-commercial use for almost 20 years. Respondent’s use is of a religious nature and entirely non-commercial. Respondent noted that its site was not associated with the Complainant and in the past sought to provide links to the Complainant’s sites. Respondent does allow Google Ads on his site hoping to defray some of the costs of hosting, however the Respondent attempted to block any keyword he reasonably thought to be associated with the Complainant’s goods and services prior to filing of this action and painstakingly added to the list any new ads that were discovered that were related. The Respondent does not profit from the site nor does he wish to. If the ads were to change the demeanour of the website attached to the Domain Name to commercial rather than non-commercial, the remedy would be removal of the ads not transfer of the Domain Name. The Complainant has not proven that the Respondent has no legitimate rights.
Respondent administers various domains and has pursued various top-level domains as a reseller of the ICANN-approved registrar Gandi. As the holder of a Gandi reseller account Respondent obtains domain names for clients; the domains are not owned by Respondent, but managed on behalf of clients. The report provided by the Complainant does not allow the Respondent to comment with more specificity on the allegation that he is the owner of more than forty domain names. The Complainant has attempted to disparage the Respondent by painting him as a cybersquatter in order to negatively influence this panel. The Complainant has failed to prove circumstances proving a pattern of conduct.
Respondent has never offered the Domain Name for sale for any price to anyone.
When Complainant offered the Respondent USD $200,000, Respondent declined indicating the Domain Name was not for sale.
When Complainant pressed for a valuation of the Domain Name, Respondent provided an estimated value, but maintained it was not for sale at that or any price.
The allegation that Respondent offered to lower the price in exchange for an ongoing revenue stream is false and further evidence of bullying and bad faith on the part of the Complainant.
There was little Internet traffic at the time the Domain Name was registered and browsers were in their infancy. The allegation that the Respondent knew that the Internet would take off and registered the Domain Name in case the Complainant came along and wanted it later is far-fetched.
Respondent asserts the defenses of laches and/or estoppel as Complainant has had almost twenty years to bring action against the Defendant and did not do so until now.
Additional Submissions
Respondent does not challenge the Complainant’s trade mark registrations or the fact that the Domain Name is identical to the Complainant’s trade marks. The reference to other domain names containing “graceland” and added matter should have no bearing on these proceedings. <graceland.com> by itself is confusingly similar to the Complainant’s trade mark rights.
Panels have generally declined to apply the doctrine of laches. The Complainant underwent a number of restructures which delayed taking action. The Respondent would not suffer undue prejudice by relinquishing the Domain Name or moving its content as most of its traffic is generated by use of the Complainant’s goodwill. However Complainant would suffer undue prejudice if Respondent were allowed to continue to the prejudice of the Complainant’s trademarks and their enforcement.
The Respondent’s website has essentially remained the same since inception without updates or changes.
The Respondent would not have needed to put much effort to produce its content and has not produced any evidence of monetary investment.
At the time the name was registered some of the most famous cybersquatting cases took place. When the Complainant tried to purchase the name none of the links on the website supposed to go to bible passages were, in fact, working. The website only evolved into a working site with links and new content after the Complainant’s offer to purchase, an indication of bad faith.
One of the metadata keywords for the site was ‘Graceland’ which was clearly an attempt to disrupt the business of the Complainant by diverting traffic to sites which clearly compete with the Complainant.
Respondent does not substantiate how much money he has made from the site attached to the Domain Name. He does not explain his relationship with the hosting service or whether he receives pay-per-click income.
The Respondent does not prove when he tried to block advertisements related to Elvis and Graceland. Indeed as of February 2014 they were still appearing.
The Respondent’s own resume declares he is a pioneer in domain names and DNS. He has not provided any evidence that he does not own multiple registrations as alleged.
The Respondent did offer to sell the Domain Name to the Complainant for $200,000 and showed an interest in a revenue stream. Why would he send an appraisal of its value if he was not interested in selling, especially as it supported a figure in the region of that requested? In fact the high value is only attributable to the intellectual property rights of the Complainant and the revenue from ads attributable to confusion with the Complainant’s marks
>Additional Submissions made by the Respondent can be summarised as follows:
Previous panels have accepted laches as a defense. The delay exceeds any other previously cited case at 20 years. No valid excuse for the delay has been asserted or proven
The Complainant has attempted to reverse domain name hijack the name through bad faith efforts of misrepresenting conversations with the Respondent and fabricating a claim that Respondent requested a revenue stream.
Respondent would be unduly prejudiced by a transfer. Revenue is not the sole measure on which prejudice can be drawn especially regarding a non-commercial site. Respondent does not have access to all its records over 20 years. Prejudice to the Complainant should not be a defense to laches.
If ‘Graceland’ were driving traffic the Complainant would not have parked its domain name Graceland.org. The Complainant’s site does not even appear in the top five search results for Graceland, save for a sponsored link. Graceland.org contains pay-per-click links and Complainant has done nothing to use graceland.org to identify itself or any source for the products and services listed on that parking page.
By offering various texts of the bible, having done so since 1994 and the inception of the site the Respondent is making legitimate non-commercial and fair use of the Domain Name, without intent for commercial gain and without intent to misleadingly divert customers or to tarnish the Complainant’s trade mark. There is nothing misleading about the source or sponsorship of the Respondent’s site. An Internet user would not believe the Complainant sponsors or endorses the site. The site does not try to confuse customers into purchasing anything from the Respondent and it is clear the Respondent is the creator of the site. Respondent is not tarnishing the Complainant’s mark by associating it with unwholesome activities, indeed the opposite, it provides truthful information, biblical text and commentary.
The Respondent hand coded at least 68 pages of html, one page for each book of the bible, a bible index page and the home page, a major effort amounting to hundreds of hours of time. At the time the Respondent charged $100 an hour for his time. This was not the sort of thing he would have done if he intended to sell, as the time could have been spent earning money from clients.
Links in the Wayback archive worked on the page showing time and place of Dwelling Place meetings. Links may or may not appear in any given Wayback snapshot and their evidentiary weight should be determined accordingly.
Respondent went through various incarnations of database development over the years requiring completely rebuilding the back end of the site from scratch around the same basic content and subsequently adding translations and additional content. The site has been constantly updated, upgraded and kept working over a twenty year period, although occasionally unavailable due to periodic maintenance.
The Respondent did see the value of Domain Names in the 1990s, but he was one of the earliest proponents of protecting trade mark holders from confusion through domain name use and designed several global solutions enabling trade mark holders to enjoy their protected marks on the Internet while allowing for entrepreneurial innovation to flourish. Respondent’s emphasis was on Internet growth and stability through orderly expansion of the domain name space and he has been heavily involved in ICANN work to pursue the same. It is misguided for the Complainant to characterise him as a cybersquatter.
Pay-per-click advertising does not automatically create a commercial purpose. It is a stretch to claim that a religious site is somehow commercial because of the use of it to defray costs and not to make a profit.
It would have been more effective and appropriate to use the Google policy regarding Google Adwords than to use the ICANN Policy. It would have eliminated any use of the Complainant’s marks in the Respondent’s pay-per-click advertising.
Respondent never offered to sell the Domain Name at any price or requested anything in exchange for the Domain Name. Respondent provided a valuation to the Complainant to show the third-party value of the Domain Name so the Complainant would leave him in peace.
Respondent cannot identify the 44 names that the Complainant alleges he owns in order to be able to comment. Even if he owns them all this is not evidence of bad faith. Respondent does not have a pattern of registering names to deprive trade mark owners of their rights as alleged by the Complainant.
As Respondent has never contemplated using the Domain Name for a commercial purpose he could not have registered it for the purpose of disrupting the Complainant’s business or any other business. Further since the Domain Name was registered prior to the UDRP this should not retrospectively be determined to be a factor.
Respondent has never at any time sought to cause any confusion between God’s work and the life or legacy of Elvis Presley. Since Elvis was known as “The King” the phrase “King of Kings” on the Respondent’s website distinguishes it and informs the visitor that the website does not originate from the Complainant or its predecessors in interest. Further Respondent is not using and has never used the Domain Name for commercial gain.
Complainant maintains that the Respondent is not commonly known by the Domain Name, is not using it to make a bona fide offering of goods or services, and is not making a legitimate non-commercial or fair use of the name. The Complainant maintains that the content of the site has not altered significantly over twenty years of use. It maintains that the site is set up for commercial benefit, bearing advertisements which compete with the Complainant using the latter’s intellectual property rights to make a profit, and that the primary purpose for registration of the name was to sell the Domain Name to the Complainant.
The Respondent denies this and contends that it uses the Domain Name to operate a legitimate, non-commercial Christian biblical site, that he has put considerable effort and investment into the site and that the revenue received from Google Ads on the site is used to defray expenses only and not to provide any profit. Respondent alleges that he has sought to block any advertisements that compete with the Complainant.
The Respondent alleges that “Graceland” is descriptive of the religious content on the site used to signify a state of God’s grace and unrelated to the Complainant or Elvis Presley, similar to use of the name by various churches and a university which existed before the property where Elvis Presley resided was named. He also points to third-party registrations for trade marks containing “Graceland” which are not associated with the Complainant. He maintains that the site could not cause confusion with the Complainant.
Whilst the Panel has dismissed the Complainant’s allegations that the Respondent has sought to sell the Domain Name to the Complainant whether for cash or in conjunction with a participation in revenue for lack of evidence (see below) the Complainant provides evidence of references on Respondent’s website such as “Elvis Graceland” which imply that the website is an official Graceland site and also advertisements of services related to Elvis Presley and the property Graceland that have been displayed on the Respondent’s site and suggests that the Respondent has used the site to promote goods and services in competition with those of the Complainant.
It points out that the Respondent has not provided figures to demonstrate his claims of a non- profit site.
The advertisements are very prominent and almost dominate the site where they appear. They appear to be a much more dynamic and vital part of the site than the biblical quotes which also appear on the site.
The Respondent does not deny that he was aware of the significance of the name “Graceland” vis a vis Elvis Presley at the time of registration or that most people would view use of that name to probably mean the property where Elvis Presley lived rather than a website bearing biblical quotes.
The Panel is of the opinion that the claims that the Respondent makes that his site is purely non-commercial and that the name was innocently adopted cannot, in the light of the evidence of the content of the site, be maintained.
Nor is the usage fair as it does capitalize on the well-known significance of the name “Graceland” as the home of Elvis Presley, offering travel and touring services related to that property, and does not make clear that there is no commercial connection with the Complainant.
The Panel finds this use is confusing.
As such it cannot amount to the bona fide offering of goods and services.
Registration and Use in Bad Faith
Complainant alleges that the true motive of the Respondent was to sell the Domain Name to the Complainant which the Respondent vehemently denies.
In fact the Panel finds that the evidence is inconclusive on the point.
Whilst the Respondent does appear to be an expert in domain name issues and to be involved in businesses related to domain names, there is no actual evidence that he has engaged in registering domain names containing the registered trade marks of others to sell for profit. In particular, there is no documentary evidence to back the Complainant’s assertions that the Respondent was trying to sell the Domain Name to the Complainant or to do a deal by which he would participate afterwards in a revenue stream from the Domain Name.
Complainant also alleges that the Respondent’s use of the site is commercial and he is using it to make profit from advertisements which compete with the Complainant in a confusing manner.
Despite the Respondent’s claims that it has tried to block such advertisements, the Complainant has provided several examples of such advertisements which are in the opinion of the Panel a significant purpose of the site and are confusing in that visitors to the site might reasonably believe they were connected to or approved by the Complainant offering services such as ‘visit Graceland in Memphis’ and ‘choose from two amazing Graceland packages.
Respondent does not deny knowledge of the Complainant at the time of registration or that despite some use of the name by others that most people would probably associate the name with the Graceland property and, therefore, the business of the Complainant or its predecessors.
He maintains the use on the site is not confusing, but the Panel does not agree.
Accordingly, the Panel holds that the Respondent has intentionally attempted to attract for commercial gain Internet users to its website by creating likelihood of confusion with the Complainant’s trade marks as to the source, sponsorship, affiliation or endorsement of the website.
In view of the well-known meaning of the “Graceland” name and the obvious use of the site to promote competing services relating to the same the Panel also finds on the balance of probabilities that the Respondent registered the Domain Name to prevent the Complainant from reflecting its trademarks in a corresponding domain name, thereby disrupting Complainant’s business.
The Panel understands the arguments made by the Respondent about <graceland.org>, but the “.com” space is far more successful and the most widely recognized and used commercial space. The suffix ‘.org’ is much less used and carries non-commercial connotations such that no adverse inferences can be made from the non development of this domain name by the Complainant.
As such, the Panel believes that the Complainant has made out its case that the Domain Name was registered and used in bad faith and has satisfied the third limb of the Policy.
Finally the Respondent alleges that the Complainant should not succeed in its Complaint on the grounds of delay due to the doctrine of laches. The Panel is split on whether the doctrine of laches may apply to give a defence in domain name dispute resolution cases.
There are many decided cases going both ways which have been decided under the Policy.
The Chair is of the opinion that that the doctrine of laches does not apply to domain name proceedings.
One member of the Panel is of the opinion that, although it has been consistently held in the majority of relevant UDRP proceedings that the doctrine of laches does not apply as a defence to UDRP proceedings, the question of delay may nevertheless be relevant in that a complainant who delays in initiating UDRP proceedings may have difficulty, from an evidentiary perspective, in establishing the second and third limbs under the Policy, however this is not such a case.
The remaining member of the Panel who believes that the doctrine of laches can be relevant and provide a defence in certain cases and who would criticise the Complainant believing that the reasons for its delay are not adequate, also believes that the doctrine should not apply in this case.
In the present case he believes it is unlikely that delay would militate against the success of the Complainant due to the findings of the Panelists, as set out above, as to the nature of the continuous bad faith usage revealed by the evidence which means the Respondent has not built up legitimate rights in the name, despite the length of time of use and is not unduly prejudiced by the delay. It has accordingly made no difference to the decision of the Panel as set out above.
As such in light of the findings above the Panel believes that the Complainant was justified in bringing its Complaint and that it has not been involved in any reverse domain name hijacking.
BrianWick says
why would they do something like this when Graceland.guru is available 🙂
BullS says
grace.land
graceland.sexy
graceland.estate
cmac says
i like how they say that the respondent basically doesn’t need the domain and would be no big loss for them if they lose it….
DropHawk says
“Respondent put considerable investment into the site to spread God’s word.”
“having provided significant added value to the name he has cultivated for the past 19 years. ”
Really? Copying-n-pasting biblical quotes?
BrianWick says
cmac –
yes – even though the elvis estate really does not have exclusive use in GRACELAND – as in numerous registered TMs that incorporate it as well as this direct match:
Word Mark GRACELAND
Goods and Services IC 003. US 001 004 006 050 051 052. G & S: Eye gels; Natural cocoa butter based personal care products, namely, body lotion, shower gel, soap, body polish, body and foot scrub and non-medicated skin creams; Non-medicated skin care preparations, namely, creams, lotions, gels, toners, cleaners and peels; Tanning and after-sun milks, gels and oils. FIRST USE: 20110407. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20110407
Serial Number 85289687
Owner (REGISTRANT) Ok Jin Jeon INDIVIDUAL REPUBLIC OF KOREA 409 N. Pacific Coast Highway, #100 Redondo Beach CALIFORNIA 90277
that is like saying Hiltler Youth have a better use of the air we all breath.
I lost Hobbits.com years back where after that opinion Laches was determined in a similar case in a California court.
Hopefully a decent pro bono attorney realizes the gain in representing the respondent in a real court
BrianWick says
And DropHawk –
The point cmac is making and I concur is just because someone feels (or in fact has) a better use in GRACELAND – that does not mean they have exclusive use and rights in it.
maybe I am off base on this one but all said I would rely on an opinion from john and or ari on this one.
bri
Dr. James Wright says
This is a dumbass decision. Elvis’ estate is one of the top grossing dead celebrity estates..and they decline to pay a fair price for the .com. (they pay for the .org but ‘strongarm’ the .com). Cancelling my trip to Graceland and playing Public Enemy’s “Fight the Power” (which has an appropriate reference to Elvis). F Graceland and “The King”. Hopefully “The Domain King” (Rick) will publicize this batshit decision.
BrianWick says
Dr –
Public Enemy – have not heard that name in awhile
Buxxcocks, sex pistols, alice cooper even – made my day
Dr. James Wright says
@BrianWick
thanks, I enjoy your incisive posts as well.
I was a little ‘wound up’ by the article when I posted this one. I stand by my sentiment but I probably could have been a bit more delicate. Public Enemy’s greatest hits album is ‘time-capsule’ material – highly recommended.
BrianWick says
Dr –
I do not know about saving the “king” but I do know about “god save the queen”- sex pistols.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z2M_hpoPwk&feature=kp
At red rocks Colorado several years back:
” I am not johnny Denver….I am johnny rotten”
so there you have it – something is “rotten” about the “king” today – very sad 🙂
Gordo Granudo says
This is such a no-brainer. Really, domainers lose credibility when they squeal over this sort of thing. GOOD decision.
You can own Yankees.com for your civil war site, but don’t think about selling baseball merch.
You can own Nissan.com if you got there first, but you can’t sell cars on it.
You can own Apple.com if you’re an orchard, but don’t think about selling computers.
If your name is Nathaniel Bedford Anderson and you own NBA.com, congrats, but for the sake of that domain, don’t post anything having to do with basketball.
If you own graceland.com and want to make it a bible site, have at it but the second you start selling Elvis stuff, you’ve burned your own bridge.
It’s really such a simple concept, to see domainers try and make excuses for shitbag behavior is, frankly speaking, why this community has the reputation it does.
Dr. James Wright says
@Gordo,
glad you have it all figured out… but it doesn’t seem that simple. The Respondent wasn’t directly selling related merch. Ad streams are “auto-optimized”, ever-changing, and often personalized to the visitor. The Respondent possibly could have been more proactive about updating negative keywords (blocking). But Elvis’ estate could have been more proactive about registering domains related to their business. Graceland was around long before the domain was first registered. Is it fair that they “strong-armed’ it rather than negotiate a reasonable price? I think many of us would benefit from your wisdom.
BrianWick says
Gordo –
it is always great to take the high road – and question nothing in life – you end up working for the man in some lifer always saying “I wish….”- and then some day you finally retire drooling in front of a tv (that may or may not even be turned on) and die of heart attack.
The facts are that if you do not protect your mark – which really is a household term like kleenx – then you lose it – especially after 20 years blowing your nose in a generic “Kleenex” made by Wal-Mart, kmart or target
Owen Frager says
The whole dead celeb thing is about someone making money off stealing other people’s work. Well they may buy it but even Ambian has a patent expiration date before it becomes part of the public good.
Jon Schultz says
I agree with Dr. Wright, Gordo. These are draconian rules which allow a valuable domain name to be usurped because of auto-generated links. At the very least the UDRP rules should require that the trademark holder first send a C&D letter to the domain holder, demanding that such links be removed, before they can have any claim to the domain.
Dr. James Wright says
@Brian.
thanks for the nostalgic video – nice quality for 38-year-old footage. I was too young to see the Pistols, but as a teenager I did see Rotten’s PIL live in ’84 playing in a warehouse on a pier in San Francisco. …and I now admire that “noise” more than the music Elvis jacked from the pioneering blues musicians.
Dr. James Wright says
@Jon Schultz – excellent point and suggested solution.
Grim says
It’s interesting to see that Graceland.com was registered 2 months after Elvis Enterprises registered the .ORG version. If they had really wanted it, they had the chance to get the .COM at the same time.
In any event, another very poor decision.
Whether Graceland.com was just a blank page after all these years, or “The Respondent’s website has essentially remained the same since inception without updates or changes”, as stated in the article, shouldn’t matter. If you own a piece of land that you never develop, some other person shouldn’t be able to come along and just steal it from you, especially when, as the article also says, the name “Graceland is also associated with several churches, a university, an inn and conference centre, a chiropractor, a poem, an album, a TV show, a movie….”, all of whom could lay claim to it if they desired.
On a side note, coincidentally, I’m listening to Kansas’ album, ‘Point of no return’ and this quote from the song, ‘Sparks of the Tempest’ just came up:
“The world is corrupted, and the strong take the weak.”
And the UDRPs continue to prove that. But anyway, let’s see what Elvis Enterprises ends up doing with the .COM that they couldn’t have already done with the .ORG after all these years…
Dr. James Wright says
@Grim
nice points and nice job extending the music-related tie-ins on this thread.
Gordo Granudo says
“At the very least the UDRP rules should require that the trademark holder first send a C&D letter to the domain holder, demanding that such links be removed, before they can have any claim to the domain.”
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Why should the scales be tipped in favor of the TM infringing shitbags?
To the contrary, if you’re going to park a name that has a glaring TM nexus with something, the onus is on YOU to ensure that the domain channel doesn’t become a conduit for TM infringement.
The idea that a TM holder owes a TM infringer any sort of ‘warning’ is absurd.
The standard is clear.
I am the first one to oppose abusive UDRPs or bad UDRP decisions that come down in favor of a harmless domain holder on the basis of some random TM that exists out in the wilderness, but it is up to YOU to ensure that your domains are not infringing, especially when its a fire-flirter name like Graceland.com.
And Brian Wick, should we really dredge up YOUR personal history here on this issue? I’d think you of all people would want to let that sleeping dog lie.
Gordo Granudo says
That should have read “UDRP decisions that come down AGAINST harmless domain holders”.
Jon Schultz says
Why? I’ll tell you why, Gordon. Because domains like Graceland.com have substantial value in the domain marketplace for the non-trademark-infringing uses they can be put to, while the amount of actual damage caused to a trademark holder by a few errant PPC links is generally negligible. And for any case in which there is substantial damage, that is cause for a trademark infringement lawsuit seeking compensation for the exact amount of damage caused, not ICANN’s swat-a-mosquito-with-an-ax UDRP proceedings which frequently give valuable generic domains, which can be used in many different ways, to trademark holders.
Jon Schultz says
Sorry, Gordo…
Gordo Granudo says
“Because domains like Graceland.com have substantial value in the domain marketplace for the non-trademark-infringing uses they can be put to”
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Haha, I’ll take “Bullshit” for 200, Alex.
Find me a jury of 6/12 who believe there is ANY use for “Graceland” other than something associated with Elvis Presley.
You can claim self defense, but it doesn’t mean you get away with murder.
As far as ‘actual damage’, the ‘actual damage’ isn’t just whatever costs are associated with the link. It’s the fact that someone else owns and is operating a trademark.com in such a way that makes it confusingly similar to the trademark itself.
“OH, BUT IT’S JUST A PARKING LINK! I DIDN’T KNOW! REALLY! I BOUGHT GIANTS.COM TO MAKE A CHARITY SITE FOR MY CHURCHES FAIRYTALE STORYTELLING CONTEST FOR THE CHILDREN OF DISABLED WAR VETERANS! ALL THOSE FOOTBALL LINKS, I DIDN’T MEAN IT! HONEST!”
SO fucking pathetic. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Just ask the former owner of NewportNews.com how it works.
The answer is simple and the answer is this.
Parking a domain that has an associated trademark is dangerous. I don’t care how much it earns you parked, if you park it, you’re risking losing it. Period, that simple.
There are highly paid ‘consultants’ out there who themselves were/are ‘domainers’ who can actually hold a TM holders hand through the process of ensuring parking links stream their ads, bring down the UDRP hammer and burn that squatter to the ground.
There are no coincidences. The rash of UDRPs in the past few years have resulted from two ‘consultants’ who find TM vulnerable .com names, then sell their ‘recovery services’ to the mark holders.
Whatever, though. Listen to whoever you want.
BrianWick says
So Gordo –
How do you explain several registered non-Elvis GRACELAND TMs – including the aforementioned:
Word Mark GRACELAND
Goods and Services IC 003. US 001 004 006 050 051 052. G & S: Eye gels; Natural cocoa butter based personal care products, namely, body lotion, shower gel, soap, body polish, body and foot scrub and non-medicated skin creams; Non-medicated skin care preparations, namely, creams, lotions, gels, toners, cleaners and peels; Tanning and after-sun milks, gels and oils. FIRST USE: 20110407. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20110407
Serial Number 85289687
Owner (REGISTRANT) Ok Jin Jeon INDIVIDUAL REPUBLIC OF KOREA 409 N. Pacific Coast Highway, #100 Redondo Beach CALIFORNIA 90277
and also mentioned there are several non-Elvis TMs that incorporate GRACELAND
Dr. James Wright says
@Gordo:
More important than 6/12 jurors, are the trademark examiners who (as Brian already identified) ruled that there are alternative legitimate uses for the term “GRACELAND”. The term obviously had meaning before it was adopted to refer to Elvis’ estate.
Your noble concern for damages to Elvis’ estate seems misguided. Because despite grossing huge money for a dead person (who unlike Tupac fails to release new music posthumously), has been mismanaged into restructuring several times. I would bet that these related losses far exceed any losses due to the Respondent website. Moreover, the damages (whether paid-link related or otherwise) have to be quantified. How would you calculate the damages you allege result from trademark confusion?
If you really want to benefit the community, identify these “consultants” you suggest are misleading domainers. ??? You get profanely angry about those who are less-informed or who neglect to carefully manage ad-stream links, yet you fail to reveal parties who you claim are engaging far more nefarious offenses??? The injustice of taking advantage of the weak/uninformed was a key theme in this thread for many of us, but you seem more interested in touting your sense of superiority. Share your knowledge, don’t just parade it.
CoinDomains says
You can’t play “We’re not gonna take it” from Twisted Sister right now, because domainers really never
founded a foundation (not that I know of) when this type of thing is happening.
All these domain fest’s – I never even see people teaming up to produce materials to educate potential buyers
of why a domain name is a great purchase/asset to them.
Bitcoins people just recently got together to make “What is bitcoin” pamphlets.
More Teamwork is needed.
Michael Berkens says
ICA, ICA, ICA
The same organization that has ever been around to look out for the rights of domain owners, which is still around and still gets no love or support by 99.8% of all domain holders
ontheinterweb says
Gordo you should post more on this blog.
i dont know what to believe with stuff like this but i like your style.