Over the weekend we received several hundred of emails from SnapNames.com telling us that domains we had backordered were now available on a “buy it now” basis.
The emails all have the same text to them:
“””
Good news! (>>>>>>>>>.com) has become available for immediate purchase at SnapNames.
Please note that this is not an auction, but is offered on a first come, first serve basis at a fixed ‘Buy It Now’ price.
(>>>>>>>>>>.com)
Please click on the domain name above to go to SnapNames to purchase the domain name, or go to www.snapnames.com and search for the domain name directly.
As a courtesy, we have removed your pre-order on this name as it is now available. Since the name is offered for immediate purchase, you should act quickly to ensure you acquire the domain name.
Due to potential high demand by other interested parties, SnapNames cannot guarantee that the name will be for sale for long. In the event it is already sold, the domain name will not appear as available when clicking on the link above.
“””
Hum
Nice of them to remove my backorder.
Does that mean that they domain will never drop?
How do they know that?
A few of the domain names I received notice on were:
zzf.org
zeroplus.com
yourmortgagerate.com
youplace.com
wywa.com
wingsauce.com
wealthedge.com
washandgo.com
wallprints.com
visitingtokyo.com
turkeytime.com
truckscale.com
trafficsyndication.com
tiptopservice.com
thecreativedepartment.com
socialmediarank.com
smartchick.com
sitewinner.com
retirementpackages.com
recreationcenters.com
quarantined.com
prayforchange.com
phoneupgrades.com
partyplanner.net
nyrealestateagent.com
nextdayfinancing.com
mortgagemodifiers.com
microinvestments.com
lovehair.com
letsrelax.com
hybridfueleconomy.com
hoteltalk.com
hobbytime.com
gradingcontractor.com
goodscores.com
That just a few.
These domains are now priced as low as $596 and many are in the mid four figures.
All of the domains seemed to be owned under privacy at Name.com and are also available for purchase at Name.com for the same price as it is at Snap.
The question I have, which I don’t have the answer for is where did all of these domains come from.
I typically will go through domains that are in redemption or look like they will expire or that have mulitple backorders at Snapnames already.
While from time to time I will get such a notice its more like 1 or 2 a month.
Not 500 in a weekend.
All very strange.
I was wondering if any other domainers out there got mulitple notices like this over the weekend and if so what do you think it means?
Gnanes says
I have been receiving these notices as well. is name.com catching their customers domains and trying to cash in?
Ms Domainer says
*
There are all kinds of shenanigans going on at the drop catchers and not just Snapnames.
Namejet and Godaddy are simply not awarding backorders, and I suspect that GD is not even deleting “choice” domains (and I don’t mean pre-release domains; I’m talking about domains scheduled for release) but rather keeping them themselves or auctioning them off.
This is the new wave of backordering, I’m afraid.
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Gnanes says
Godaddy backorder sends name to public auction.
Dan says
Yep, this is what Name.com does to expired domains. They take ownership as early as 20 days after expiration and they park it with a link saying it’s available for sale.
https://pubman.domainsponsor.com/buyer/for_sale?domain=smartchick.com&a_id=71366
Now them being listed on SnapNames.com is ridiculous, it usually happens with doamins that are high traffic. But they are starting to do it with any domain that is a .com of two words.
Now I can see that Snapnames is also trying to cash in from Name.com’s expired domain inventory by mixing it all together.
BullS says
They’re keeping them for themselves or auctioning them off.
So what you gonna do? class action lawsuit!!!
Illegal business transaction.
Trung says
I am sure your “Professional Executive Account Manager”
will fix this problem for you.
I know they are all truly sorry and everything
will be alright in your end!
Trung says
YES, in your END
Trung says
I was wondering if any other domainers out there got mulitple notices like this over the weekend and if so what do you think it means?
I think what it means is the someone (maybe Halverez is working from Home)
screwed up and released the emails all at once, so all the others followed suit
thus tipping us of to there scam.
Leonard Britt says
Yes, I received a few such notices. I suspect it is a test to see the effect of fixed pricing where there is a rush to beat other potential bidders rather than merely outbidding them. Or perhaps the names aren’t really drops but just a means of marketing them at better sales prices than one would ever get on a domain forum.
Trung says
@ Leonard Britt
Is that what they call a Breach of Contract these days,
Test Marketing …
of course as a courtesy, Right!
gazzip says
I’v had about 16 over the weekend, as far as I am aware these were all pre-release names that were due to go to auction at snap but my “guestimate” is that name.com is watching how many bids we have placed on snapnames then pulling the domains (or cherry picking) the popular names before the auction date on snap, then re-listing them on snapnames a short while later with fixed prices.
Basically, it looks like we’re all helping someone at name.com spot/keep all the names that have the most interest/backorders on.
“IF” this is the case then it really sucks big time!
Here’s the names I was emailed about over the weekend, many of them already had multiple backorders placed on them at snap.
All prices are set to BUY NOW
beavertrap.com – now $2,732
turkeytime.com – now $5,972 ” ”
coolwidgets.com – now $6,572
visitgloucester.com – now $3,572
dentalceramics.com – now $9,332
flyingarrow.com – now $2,372
ecommercepros.com – now $1,412
veteran.net – now $14,252
dnreporter.com – now $596
designlover.com – now $7,172
robotmasters.com – now $836
smartchick.com – now $4,172
sportswebcam.com – now $836
vivafashion.com – now $10,532
millionairesplayground.com – now $1,652
microinvestments.com – now $3,452
A strange coincidence that all the above look as if they are name.com domains with whois privacy set on all of them.
Unusual to say the least…..
John Humphrey says
Bob Parsons shut down GoDaddy’s domain warehousing wing, Standard Tactics. after being outed by Andrew Allemann (Thanks Andrew) If it turns out Name is warehousing client drops rather than releasing them for auction, perhaps we can put pressure on them to stop. While we’re at it maybe we could do the same for Oversee, Enom, etc. etc. or even get ICANN to address the practice. Bob did the right thing. Every Godaddy drop goes on the block starting at $10.
liror says
i would bet not many of them are going to be picked up by domainers .
strongly over priced imo
jp says
Are they all owned by registrants penh name.com? Could be part of the new Afternic dls deal?
Domo Sapiens says
The Domain Industry: No Man’s Land
everybody tries to take advantage of the gray areas.
It’s all about making a buck.
Steve says
I got about 200 on Friday and it scared me a bit, I didn’t read the subject line completely and thought i actually won all these backorders.
But yes it seems that Name.com is up to no good.
its a shame there were some really good domains there, now I have to pay a premium, fuck that.
INTERNET MEDIA says
@Gananes
I experienced the same on two domains I backordered from Godaddy. Godaddy wasn’t even the dropping registrar. Godaddy put the names into their own account and then sent to auction.
IMO, bad business to send backordered domains to an auction. BTW, Godaddy was the recipient of the additional dollars I had to pay at auction. Just doesn’t feel right for Godaddy to profit from my backorder….
ettelouR.com says
In the domain industry, the scam doesn’t take place these big companies are caught; the scam takes place the day such entities are created:
Once a company was created and allowed to catch dropping name, it is created for scam. Why else would a company be given such a huge advantage?
Once a parking company is allowed to operate in the dark, without revealing starts that are verifiable, that parking company is 100% scamming. Why should one trust any company that doesn’t reveal their stats.
I was born at night, but it wasn’t last light! If a company has the advantage of catching dropped valuable names before it is available to the public, I can tell you it is nothing but a scam. And you know it. It should be illegal for any outfit to have such an advantage. It is simply stacking the deck.
Gnanes says
I just e-mailed Snapnames support right now. Lets see what their response is.
INTERNET MEDIA says
Sorry, meant to say; @Gnanes in my post
Brad says
I have received many of these spam emails as well. Very annoying.
Brad
Drewbert says
ICANN won’t stop this. They don’t care.
The only way to stop this anti-competitive anti-consumer behaviour (the big registrars retaining domains after expiry prevents other registrars of getting a slice of the deletion pie) is if someone goes to the US Department of Commerce Federal Trade Commission and shows them exactly what goes on (and how long it’s been going on for).
May I suggest rschroeder@ftc.gov and charwood@ftc.gov as a good start.
I have a beginning draft of a letter if someone from inside the USA wants to pick up the ball and run with it.
Domainers Gate directory NEW books section says
system malfunction? discount day? black friday? wikileaks? 🙂
Adam says
Name.com have been catching pending delete domains for a long time. If you follow the drops, this is no secret. You can see that these were all old catches and they operate their drop catching independent of SnapNames (they aren’t a partner that catches on snap’s behalf) . The company grabbed the names and now are putting them up for sale just like a domainer would do.
Registrars are simply domainers and warehousing is “standard tactics” these days. It’s been this way for awhile and will continue to be this way as my best guess.
btw John Humphrey you forgot to mention Tucows as well. I wouldn’t be so sure that other registrars have stopped or even could be stopped. How would you be able to tell or to police that ? They could simply change their name or methods or perhaps even invest in a “domainer” operation. Once caught red-handed a person would usually find a more crafty way to hide their tracks.
You could see the idea of stopping registrars from warehousing backfire on you. I could see the next move being a push on prohibiting anyone (especially those nasty domainers) from “warehousing”. If the registrar is picking them up on pending delete as seems to be the case with these Name.com grabs, it’s no different than a domainer who owns a registrar grabbing the name is it ?
Warehousing shouldn’t be the issue so much as the unfair advantage the registrars have in the market place to actually take over domains (and auction or warehouse) that are under their registrar BEFORE pending delete
Mr. T says
The first thing that came to mind was the .TV “one-time-premium-fee” system. It has obviously been a success – maybe they want to give it a try with .com. I can see how that would piss off quite a few people!
em says
What a conflict of interest. There’s no way Name.com should be able to sell their own “caught” domains at Snapnames, especially after people have put in their initial interest bids. These are two bads, one by name.com and the other by snapnames.
I’m pretty sure name.com has their eyes on particular domains well in advance. First you are told you have a possibility of getting it for $59 at snapnames, when available, and then this happens. Gotta shake the head.
At the end of the day, GoDaddy did the right thing with their drops. The other registrars would do well to follow suit before someone gets p**sed off enough to call them on the conflict of interest by filing a complaint/suit at a higher level.
Domainers Gate directory NEW books section says
in the mean time ICANN approves a FRESH and modern TLD with a great future!!!
.communism 🙂
domainnews.com/en/icann-approves-first-gtld-.communism.html
Orthopedic Physician Assistant says
I received 1, but I don’t backorder many names. It was for traderjobs.com. For $4k something. I thought that the auction winner didn’t pay, so SNAP was trying to cash out on other bidders.
This may be warehousing… Just a thought on this: What if the registers released all the names they have been warehousing. Do you think it would water down the value of domains if all the sudden millions of names were available on the market? Just wondering if this is a way for them to maintain scarcity for premium names. Just a thought…
Gazzip says
“If the registrar is picking them up on pending delete as seems to be the case with these Name.com grabs, it’s no different than a domainer who owns a registrar grabbing the name is it ?”
@Adam, these are not pending delete domains so it does’nt look like that is the case IMHO, these were pre-release names that were listed on snap but disappeared into the land of whois privacy just before the auction date. If you look at them you can tell by the current reg date ( a few examples below)
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“Warehousing shouldn’t be the issue so much as the unfair advantage the registrars have in the market place to actually take over domains (and auction or warehouse) that are under their registrar BEFORE pending delete”
That is the issue and the fact that places like snapnames/namejet show how many bidders there are on pre-release domains is allowing the likes of name.com to come along and cherry pick all the ones that other people have show interest on. …Similar to how NetSol were hoarding names that other people had checked on. I think people called that front running or something like that?
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A random sampling of some of those listed by MHB and from the ones I listed
yourmortgagerate.com
Expiration Date: 2011-01-08 19:08:17
Creation Date: 2005-01-08 19:08:17
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tiptopservice.com
Expiration Date: 2011-07-30 18:28:16
Creation Date: 2005-07-30 18:28:16
———————————————
letsrelax.com
Expiration Date: 2011-09-30 18:37:55
Creation Date: 2005-09-30 18:37:55
———————————————
goodscores.com
Expiration Date: 2011-10-26 15:43:04
Creation Date: 2004-10-26 15:43:04
———————————————
vivafashion.com
Expiration Date: 2011-10-12 01:10:08
Creation Date: 2006-10-12 01:10:08
———————————————-
Veteran.net
Expiration Date: 2011-07-04 04:00:00
Creation Date: 1997-07-05 04:00:00
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dentalceramics.com
Expiration Date: 2011-10-15 04:00:00
Creation Date: 1998-10-16 04:00:00
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visitgloucester.com
Expiration Date: 2011-10-01 15:19:17
Creation Date: 2006-10-01 15:19:17
—————————————————
smartchick.com
Expiration Date: 2011-10-15 18:12:48
Creation Date: 2003-10-15 18:12:48
—————————————————
If these were caught by name.com after Pending Delete the creation dates would be recent.
There is a “small” chance that name.com has owned them all for many years but I think that is VERY doubtful.
Rob Sequin says
My first reaction was to post the joke comment:
“Halvarez is selling his portfolio”
Then I started looking at the whois. Most are privacy protected. Hmmm.
So I go back to the previous owner and I find LOTS of
REGISTRAR STATUS: EXPIRED
Based on my limited research it would appear that these were drops that someone, maybe even Snapnames itself picked up.
1. Did these domains drop publicly before?
2. If so, I did not see any sales listed in dnsaleprice for the ones I checked.
So, this is either a large drop catching domain investor or Snapnames offering these domains for sale at fixed prices.
Mike, ask Snapnames for an explanation. If they have nothing to hide they should offer a truthful reply.
Ask them flat out if these domains are owned by Snapnames.
MHB says
Rob
Yup on my schedule for today
Tim Davids says
I agree with Adam…where it gets bad is somebody knows the email addresses of all those that were bidding. Thats the strange and unfair practice part. I’ll sign up if snap will give me the emails of those who were bidding against me.
LS Morgan says
LOL. I love the whole theme of this conversation…
Domainer: THE REGISTRARS ARE ACTING UNFAIRLY! THEY ARE GRABBING ALL THE GOOD, EXPIRED NAMES AND CHARGING ME A LOT FOR THEM BEFORE I CAN GRAB THEM AND DO THE SAME THING TO BUSINESSES!!! UNFAIR! UNFAIR!
LOOOOOOOOOOOL
This whole industry is just gross.
page howe says
so guys i think the key here is oversee/moniker/snap signing up for the DLS and going live last week.
maybe now that they can instant sell names held in the other DLS partners they simply had the great idea to mine the customer data they have (our backorders we all didnt cancel after the name was grabbed by someone else) and because they really dont seem to have a clue about the typical bidder in the industry, they had the great thought that because we wanted to name at $69 if we won a snap, that we somehow want the name at $998.
scam, illegal no, but rather than being creative, inventing products that help domainers. it a lets send out 500,000 emails and see if we can get 50 sales.
but the perception from me is they are now too much like the intrust domains scam that tell you you can buy a soon to expire name at $120.
so can we all win a snap on snap, and then have access to the other bidders who lost and send them emails seeing if they want tit at our new buy it now?
MHB your right on to delete the old backorders, im not sure if the prospective data of what we are all backordering in the future will also be used to explaoit more dough out of each name… ie “you got this name on backorder – why not use a buy it now and get it before it expires.
page howe
MHB says
A few things
1St of all emails have gone out to see what is going on.
2nd and we have been thought this before but under ICANN rules, or in this case, lack of rules registrar’s are allowed to do this.
Although none of us like this practice Tucows to their credit, to date is at least the only registrar that stood up and admitted to it rather than sneaking it.
Ednet says
I think this is nothing new… sadly. They all do it, but only a few people notice it.
Andrew Rosener says
Same for me – I got about 75 of these over the weekend. Many of the same name posted above.
However, I would say that over the last 3 months I’ve increasingly seen names that would have previously dropped or gone to auction at SnapNames – instead being offered at Buy It Now pricing on their platform.
The other registrant which commonly comes up in this case is NOKTA domains.
Chip Meade says
The thing that makes it most disturbing and NOT a Name.com thing only or a single investor situation is the removal by Snap of the backorders! That tells me they are working together at the registrar level rather than simply as a sales agent.
Domo Sapiens says
2010 December 20 page howe permalink
so guys i think the key here is oversee/moniker/snap signing up for the DLS and going live last week.
**********
that’s another huge and obvious “conflict of interest”
When a registrar (moniker) it’s also a drop catcher (snapnames) and a Drop player (oversee.net)
Where is the line?
Who is on first?
Guess who tests expired domains and gets the insight / inside “hands on ” info ?
eg: blogsfera.com recently caught.
Once again:
The Domain Industry: No Man’s Land
BSSITES says
@ MHB Although none of us like this practice Tucows to their credit, to date is at least the only registrar that stood up and admitted to it rather than sneaking it.
That is simply not true. Tucows didn’t exactly announce that they were part of this….they got caught and were called on it and simply had the good sense to admit it once they were caught. Tucows is a POS company
andrew says
If you list a domain on Afternic Premium it will show up in SnapNames, which is probably what’s happening here.
Did you try emailing Oversee or Name?
MHB says
BS
I’m the one that caught them
MHB says
Andrew
I have written to SnapNames and to Paul at Name.com.
Snapnames is looking into it.
Name.com no response yet
DNabc says
The first thing I thought when I read this was that they were just acting as a seller for DLS, seeing that they are now part of it.
Registrar warehousing is a problem, some domains don’t even enter the cycle, they are just renewed after 29 days, changed to whois privacy and you will never see them again. I have to say I prefer to see a price for it instead of a big question mark “will this be for sale?”
Nuno Oliveira – DNabc.com
George says
I too have received a number of these emails. The most upsetting part is the “buy it now” fixed prices they have set. Way too high and even laughable in most cases.
pier0 says
I received few emails myself and for two domains in particular I had already noticed that Snapnames had kept them in the “available soon-to be backordered” list long after the domains had been renewed. SN changed their status only 1-2 days before they were (originally) supposed to drop.
So in the best case scenario, whoever owns those domains used the number of backorders to estimate interest in the domains and Snapnames participated knowingly to the process, while the same domains had for example been removed from the “available soon” list on other drop catcher sites.
MHB says
As of 3pm EST Monday still no response from Name.com.
SnapNames is looking into it
Paul Carter says
Hey Michael, This appears to be a result of Moniker/Oversee
joining the Afternic DLS Premium Promotion program. Name.com
announced our partnership back in November
(http://blog.name.com/2010/11/sell-your-premium-name-com-domains-through-afternic/),
which allows our customers to opt-in the domains they have
registered with us into the the Premium Promotion program, which
allows for the sale and fast transfer from one premium partner to
another, previously just Network Solutions and Register.com. We
also display any premium domain matches for customers searching on
our site, if the domain is in the DLS system, even if it’s not at
our registrar. Signing up for the Premium Promotion is simple for
our customers, they just opt-in their domains that are registered
with us when they sign-up at Afternic/BuyDomains. They then receive
a confirmation email from us and if confirmed by the customer the
domains are then added to the Premium Promotion program. As
announced on DNN
(http://www.domainnamenews.com/domain-sales/afternic-dls-enables-partners-premium-promotion-level/8500),
a number of new partners have joined the ranks, including Moniker,
an Oversee company. The decision to remove the backorders on
domains in the Premium Promotion program and offer a buy now price
was made without any input or conversation with Name.com. For
Name.com’s part, we’ve simply provided an easy way for our
customers to list their names with BuyDomains, what SnapNames does
with the access they have through the Afternic/BuyDomains API is
strictly their decision. A very large percentage of our customers
use our Private Whois service since it’s free with a promo code,
and especially if they are trying to sell their names. Paul Carter
VP of Operations / Name.com
MHB says
Paul
So these are not domains owned by the registrar correct?
Adam says
LSMorgan
There’s an important difference between these what I see as 3 types of warehousing. They are in order below from the “more acceptable” form of competition to least acceptable.
First type. Registrar acts as a registrant and buys new domains, aftermarket domains or names available via pending delete , just as anyone in the open marketplace can do. Although the registrar in this version has a leg up on average Joe (aka the competition) because they could use their accreditation to more easily chase drops and they could monitor registration patterns and other information. However this is still the more fairer competition than the next 2 examples. I imagine all registrars do this in some form or another.
Second type of warehousing. Registrar uses customer domain names that are about to be deleted and places said domains in to a traffic monitoring system and a “pre-bid” system. The registrar takes domain names that do not belong to them and sells them at a premium. Godaddy does this as do registrars participating with Snapnames and Namejet in the pre-order system. The issue with this system is that a competitive system would allow all deleting domains to go back to the pool of availability (ie to drop) and be fairly competed for rather than sold at premium prices with only one possible benefactor reaping that reward.
3rd version Similar to the first type the registrar uses customer domain names that are about to be deleted and places said domains in to a traffic monitoring system. Rather than selling the domains, the registrar takes domain names that do not belong and keeps them as their own. Tucows is the most transparent in this behavior but other registrars like GD (standard tactics) and Enom (acquire this domain) and Oversee have been accused of this as well.
The issue with #2 and #3 is that these actions (which some would term anti-competitive) provide no means for the domain name to circulate back in to the system, which is unfair for new registrars (as well as their registrants). This restricts the market for new entrants in the registrar business to only being able to sell “available” new registrations. These incumbent Registrars make super-profits by seizing their client’s unwanted property and using it themselves. A competitive system would allow all deleting domains to go back to the pool of availability (ie to drop) and be fairly competed for rather than sold at premium prices with only one possible benefactor reaping that reward.
The fact that some of these registrar actions are rarely discussed, done stealthily and have to be “exposed” on a blog, would leave one to raise and eyebrow at the behavior in general. Tucows being the brazen exception here likely because they are publicly traded and need to disclose where those millions in profit are coming from every month 🙂
Chuck Hambling says
I received 2 such e-mail, but only had 3 names on BO. Sure sounds fishy, but hey at least it is not Shill Bidding. :>)
Domo Sapiens says
Why are you guys accepting domains for sale with private whois?
fishy fishy…
No matter how you slice it.
Michele Van Tilborg says
Close to 700,000 new Buy-It-Now domain name listings entered the SnapNames inventory this weekend when our system began collaborating with the NameMedia Premium Promotion network.
These names were listed on Afternic by their current registrants and are spread across any of Afternic’s participating network partners, which now include Moniker.com and SnapNames.com.
As many of you are aware, the SnapNames system sends an automated e-mail alert to a client who has previously placed a backorder or set up a saved search for a particular domain name when that name becomes available. Earlier this year, SnapNames adjusted its system so that when a name becomes available, the client is notified and the backorder is automatically deleted.
The addition of so many available names into the SnapNames system at once caused some our customers to become confused about the status of the names. We apologize for this confusion. In 2011, we will readjust our system so that backorders are no longer automatically deleted.
We encourage you to contact us at support@snapnames.com with any questions you may have.
ettelouR.com says
Sorry Michael, I think that all names should be allowed to expire and drop. No one should have the ability to catch names. It leaves room for too shenanigans. We all have common human experience; if there’s a buck to be made somewhere, and the opportunity for creative catching exits, a human being will cut corners to maximize profit. That is just my two cents.
jp says
So I was right this time at comment #13, I think the biggest takeaway here is that our registrars and big domain companies have acheived such a poor reputation at this point that just about nobody even considered the possibility that this was just DLS or something not devious. There were maybe 2 other comments suggesting dls way later on, which were also disregarded by the rest of the villagers with torches.
Gazzip says
“nobody even considered the possibility that this was just DLS or something not devious. ”
Not really, that explains the mass emails to everyone but it does’nt take away the fact that showing how many bids have been placed is allowing name.com to cherry pick them with our (snapnames customers) help. The recent mass mailing has just shown to what extent this has been happening with name.com.
If anyone has a domaintools account it should be easy to prove if these names (above) that were showing as pre-release on snapnames were held back by name.com just before the auction date….it is obvious they did not go to auction anywhere or we would have got an email from snapnames saying, we are sorry we did’nt manage to aquire the domain etc etc .
Yes, warehousing by registrars is nothing new but why should we all help them identify the names with the most interest, let them do their own work, research etc before holding back/warehousing domains shown on snapnames.
“if” snapnames removed/did not show how many backorders there were on a certain domain then it would be an advantage for the majority of their customers, registrars have thier own advantage of paying $8 instead of $59, $69, $99 and not having to bid against other, is’nt that enough?
landon white says
Yep, I heard Nelson Brady (HALVEREZ) said that …
he likes working alone at HOME alone in his underwear. 🙂
landon white says
@ Paul Carter (Names.com)
How come no answer posting yet , one (1) day later to the below inquiry!
==
2010 December 20
MHB
Paul,
So these are not domains owned by the registrar correct?
==
So were the Domains owned by the registrar?? AGAIN!
MHB says
Landon
Silence is golden
landon white says
In accordance i whole heartily agree …
Silence is golden when you can’t think of a good answer! …
MHB says
Landon
Or if the answer is like a a ton of lead
Louise says
@ Adam said: This restricts the market for new entrants in the registrar business to only being able to sell “available” new registrations.
That what new tlds are supposed to solve, right? There will plenty of domains for everybody! You don’t have to stress over those expensive dot coms – they’ll be extensions and unique names to go around – yay! Because ICANN has our interests in mind to foster competition! We’re saved! 🙂
Domo Sapiens says
2010 December 20 Domo Sapiens permalink
Why are you guys accepting domains for sale with private whois?
fishy fishy…
No matter how you slice it.
***************
Inconvenient Question. ?
Gazzip says
So no reply from Name.com yet?
………………………….
HAPPY CHRISTMAS
MHB says
Name did respond so did snapnames there responses are above
em says
Isn’t the important question, “who owns these domains”? That would be interesting. They are almost all protected whois….hmmmm. Very interesting.
Gazzip says
“Paul
So these are not domains owned by the registrar correct?
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I meant to this question, although I think the answer is pretty obvious I’d be more than happy to be wrong.
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“The issue with #2 and #3 is that these actions (which some would term anti-competitive) provide no means for the domain name to circulate back in to the system, which is unfair for new registrars (as well as their registrants). ”
Good post, very True, and we’re all helping them do it by placing backorders on so called “Pre-release” domains.
How anyone could think this is an acceptable way of doing things is beyond me
Louise says
What’s interesting – this if off-topic! – is any 3D search on Moniker yields only four extensions: com , net, org, and co. Alphabetic strings still offer many extension results.
cctld it says
Some of these domains are very valuable for me. hoteltalk first!