In the latest twist of a story we have been following for a while, the ISP which serves as the main backbone for the filing sharing site, (Black Internet) ThePirateBay.org was ordered today to stop servicing the site today or face penalties.
According to various news sources as of 9:30 a.m. PT, ThePirateBay.org appeared to be mostly inaccessible.
Although other ISP’s carry the site, Black Internet was its main backbone.
In other ThePirateBay.org news today, the official, Swedish government run debt-collection agency, commonly referred to as the bailiff, said it could find no attachable assets belonging to 3 of the 4 founders of the site.
The 4 founders were sentenced in April to one year in jail, and fined $3.6 Million Dollars, they have appealed .
As we reported back in June, ThePiratebay.Org was sold for $7.8 million dollars.
The buyer had plans to turn the site into a “legal” site where copyrighted material would not be allowed to be freely shared.
However, last week that company hit with two major issues which may delay or stop the sale.
First, on Friday Swedish officials launched a criminal probe of the company that agreed to buy ThePirateBay.org, for possible insider trading.
According to reports, Global Gaming’s stock rose sharply a week before the company announced its plans to acquire ThePirateBay.org
Second in an unrelated move, trading in Global Gaming shares was halted by the Swedish stock exchange on Friday, after officials requested proof that Global Gaming had enough money to complete the purchase of ThePirateBay.org site, saying they will not let trading resume in the shares until they have furnished proof of funds to the exchange’s satisfaction, which of this morning they still have not.
Seems like another mess involving the highly controversial site.
Oh noez, TPB is down now! Cannot life without itttttttttttttttttttttttt
They’ll be back up and tracking by tomorrow. Watch. LAWYERS CAN’T KILL BITS.
I Wish they r backkkkkkkkk
All they have to do is host the site in another hoster, in a Country where the swedish court has no jurisdiction, or legal agreements.
Hosting on the moon is a good idea. or greenland for faster tracking.
wtf i luv this site…..
try south africa…
This sucks I was going to download the new true blood episode today damn them.
North Korea or Russia 😉
why cant people just mind there own business, its not like the site is selling drugs or killing people.
I’ve never seen Braveheart, and now I never will…
dont worry about it. minova.org is still up and running get your torrents from thereuntil tpb is back up
KualaLumpur…most spam email ocmes form there too…
I hate copyright,
We all schould,
We need to make clear to those few ppl at the top of it that we dont accept this.
We all need to make ourself strong.
We cant let them scare us !
We need cyber freedom !
Ofcourcse it isnt legal what their doing, but copyright as we know it is freaked out and need freaked out anti copyrighters like tpb !
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OMG WAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON MAN? HOW DID THEY SHUT DOWN THE BEST TORRENT SITE EVER?….WELL I DONT KNOW ABOUT EVER , BUT ARE THERE ANY THERE ANY OTHER SITES HAT GOOD. LET ME KNOW WILL BE CHECKING BACK SOON.
WTF If copyright owners want people to stop doing this then they should lower the F***ing prices of cds and crap!!
down with cds, up with the almighty memory sticks. we can reuse those (always) ya’know?
Raijin said discs would go under long ago.
mothafukers
guys use http://www.btjunkie.org the site is encrypted protected of your identity ( ip ). even from your isp . it is linked to other torrent sites as well . they might of closed the piratebay down , but they will never close all torrent sites down . when one gos one shall apear . you goverment and coprate f**ks will never win .
i would like to say thank you to the piratebay , for providing us with such a good service, for the years it was around .
free stuff for every one rich or poor , lets realine the masses , free movies and music for every one .
R.I.P http://WWW.THEPIRATEBAY.ORG
We may fall now, but we are the internet. We feel no guilt or shame. We are a resilient, underground nation. Kill one of us and another two will rise in their place.
Guys another tip from me that makes it easyer for me to find out info on what free stuff is out there for us to down load ; ie movies , music , games . it also gives you informasion on new products , and news . Check out http://www.rlslog.net .THIS SITE PROFENTS YOU DOWN LOADING SOME MOVIES WITH VIRUSES IN . just copy the name of the movie , then past it in to btjunkie and search there always there , its that easy . i have never had a virus on my comp doing it this way .
pass this info on to every body you no , its time to help the masses ,help each other .
just one more think before i go you people out there nead to watch more documentrys , realy find out what is going on in the world , try to understand each other a little bit more .
Oh My God, This has to be the worst thing to happen to the world since Christ was on the cross.
Fricken crooked Swedish officials, what they were doing wasn’t even illegal.
They were just supplying information that can be used illegally and legally. just read their defense it is flawless if that stupid judge hadn’t been an idiot none of this would have happened.
try in Peru
I love it!!!!
I can’t live without TPB
mininova is just a search engine, but places like that can be used for finding torrents in conjusnction with a tracker such as:
http://openbittorrent.com/
in fact, all of your old pirate bay torrents can be used with the tool on their site to use openbittorrent as the new tracker (it is a tracker ONLY — no searching for torrents).
this is the new wave, and the groundwork has been established by the guys who created tpb. you may even notice that tracker addy in a lot of your tpb torrents, especially recently. use that from now on, and change all of your ones that don’t have it with the following tools:
tool for changing the tracker of just a few torrents is at :
http://torrenteditor.com/
i think this is the link addy for dl a script tool for changing a bunch of these tpb torrents:
http://openbittorrent.com/trackercleaner.php.gz
if it is not, go to openbittorrent.com and there is a hotlink there which will dl it for you.
spread the word.
NOT COOL! you can’t shut the site down. It was just a large file storage place where illegal content could exist. It wasn’t the hosters fault crap was put on it. Dont Leave Us, TPB!
WTF..
now what.. r u gonna start copyrighting junk..!
fuck..!! i already miss TPB.. 🙁
Where am I suppose to get my porn from now on?
What the FUCK. This was the best site for torrents! D:
well i say bad call because with them it kept hackers from doing stupid stuff now hackers and others will start getting revenge and it wont be good
this sucks. so much balls. well at least yesterday i restored and downloaded photoshop and my antivirus stuff 😀
lol silly government they have no idea how torrents work the pirate bay just is the google for torrent links the torrents still exist morons there still torrent sites you cant stop piracy if you do you stop the interwebs
http://www.mininova.org if you need your torrent fix
If TPB doesn’t work for you in the next few days it’s because your ISP has a sucky DNS. Use OpenDNS instead… http://www.opendns.org
Long live TPB!!!!
it will be back in one week guarenteed.
That is kind of funny. The internet makes billions of dollars a year through ISP’s.
It is not like the 90’s where if you could get free internet only dial up of course.
We as comsumers pay for our internet so it is ours and it has nothing to do of a compainy losing there bussness .
It is like everything else in this world, if You really like something someone some where will figure out a way to charge you for it.
File sharing is a multi-million dollar business, advertisements is where they make there money.So that in return gets us on these sites for free.
It seems the advertisments are not raking in the cash any more like they use to. They have to get there money some how.
So who ownes the internet anyways ? My point exactlly?
this is fucked up…..they need more reply support
Oh by the way .
it is not ileagal to store any file from the net ,isn’t it really a big storage place If so shouldn’t you go after the guy that ownes the internet.
But it is ileagal to sell it to make a profit . Did you ever hear of someone selling you a mp3.
Yes but that is the people that started this in the first place. I mean in a store ,like a music store. Really can you really buy mp3s in a music store on a cd ?
It cannot be said enough: The Pirate Bay is a Search Engine. There are no files hosted on their website and there never have been. You can use Google to find illegal files too. TPB just happens to be a better search engine for torrent trackers than google, and therefore it is a target.
Please bring TPB back!
iso hunt still running
wtf i love this site and i live here in brasil here i use tpb for evertn games programs they have to come back
Great, the day that I finally want to download something from this site, is THE day that it’s shut down.
Stevem
Guess the court in Sweden didn’t buy that argument.
To all
The issue is that the material all you guys want for free is copyrighted and protected by law.
Its someone creation, their work product and you just can’t take it from them because you want to
If you really want to know who brought this to light and started the getting the file sharing sites down was Metallica.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica
Moreover for something that most of you think legal, TPB founders sure got hammered at trial.
So they either had terrible lawyers or they were just wrong.
Fuck the powers-that-be. If they want people to stop pirating their products, they need to make their products WORTH THE MONEY!! If record companies would start releasing GOOD music and actually make their albums worth the $25 you pay for them. If movie studios would stop releasing crappy predictable movies. If software companies would bring down their prices. etc. etc. etc.
The fact that this stuff is being pirated is 100% the fault of the companies trying to sell these products. And in the business world, if you can’t make your product sellable, you fail. SO… TO ALL THE COMPANIES COMPLAINING OF THEIR PRODUCTS BEING “STOLEN”: STOP WHINING AND CHANGE YOUR BUSINESS PRACTICES! you obviously don’t know what you’re doing and your business probably deserves to fail! of course, you’ll just get bail-outs from the government, putting everyone except YOU in debt!
Well, my friend and I just toasted to The Pirate Bay, the one and only. Here is the toast
“To The Pirate Bay; a website of outstanding charisma and character. An entry point on the internet for all to access everything, and most importantly, the backbone of torrents, creating a true community for the masses”
I know how to get a torrent of almost anything on the pirate bay from another source, but the pirate bay was a gem. I will drink a shot of Rum on this day after a proper toast to the pirate bay for years to come.
May you all join me in commemorating The Pirate Bay.
How will i go on? I work in the middle east where everything is censored by these insincere puritanical muslim fucks. Now I can’t watch the shows I love.
@Düane
All of this material is being stolen. it is illegal to download off this site. I dont download illegally because its not worth the money, if it wasnt worth the money it wouldnt be worth watching. I download illegally cause I dont feel like paying or I dont have the money. record companies do release good music (the prices are rediculos though) its just that i dont feel like paying for it when i could just get it for free. get your reasons right and dont speak for other people
Düane
$25 for a CD?
You should shop somewhere cheaper.
Funny, all the media is good enough to download and store it on your computer, ipod or itouch, as long as its free.
This $25 argument is so old.
Music now costs $1 a song, you can rent a movie for $2.99 and get online instant delivery.
Henry
Your the first guys whose opinion I respect all day.
You get it for free because you can and you don’t want to pay for it.
I can accept this.
The rest of the excuses and justifications are just ridiculous.
FUCK INTERNET TYRANNY !! BOYCOT ANY AND ALL ASSOCIATIONS AFFILIATED WITH HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS INJUSTICE, DO NOT BY ANY OF THERE MEDIA, THERE TRYING TO MAKE MORE MONEY BY ACTIONS LIKE THIS, INSTEAD LETS MAKE THE SORRY FUCKS PAY !!!!!! sTICK WITH IT, AND LET EM KNOW BY EMAILING THERE WEBSITS AND SPREADING THE WORD. Tell em ” HEY ! ‘ I may have bought some of your greed drivin garbage but since I now have no access to download you trash to check it out to see if I really want it, I will just refrain from doing any business with your dictatorship at all, may you go bankrupt in peace . !!
@Düane
All of this material is being stolen. it is illegal to download off this site. I dont download illegally because its not worth the money, if it wasnt worth the money it wouldnt be worth watching.
THAT ARGUMENT IS THE BIGGEST LOAD OF GARBAGE AND I AM SO SICK OF PEOPLE SAYING THAT DOANLOADING BITS OF DIGITAL DATA, STREAMS OF 1’S AND 0’S IS STEALING !!! WHAT A LOAD OF BULLSHIT , GOING TO A RECORD STORE GRABBBING AN ALBUM STICKING IT IN YOUR POCKET AND WALKING OUT IS STEALING !! AND NO THIS IS NOT THE SAME THING, THIS IS SHARING INFORMATION, AND NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN INFORMATION, AND HAVE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHO IS ALLOWED TO BE EXPOSED TO SUCH INFORMATION AND WHO IS NOT !!
sTEALING, STEALING EQUATES TO THEFT,
THEFT = In criminal law, theft is the illegal taking of another person’s property without that person’s freely-given consent. The word is also used as an informal shorthand term for some crimes against property, such as burglary, embezzlement, larceny, looting, robbery, shoplifting, fraud and sometimes criminal conversion. In some jurisdictions, theft is considered to be synonymous with larceny; in others, theft has replaced larceny.
ELECTRONIC DOWNLOADS ARE NOT TAKING FROM ANYONE , THEY ARE BEING GIVIN FREELY AND WILLINGLY BY THE UPLOADERS !! AT SOME POINT SOMEONE WHO HAS OWNERSHIP OF EITHER A COPY OF THE ORIGINAL PIECE OF INFORMATION OR THE ORIGINAL HAS TO HAVE UPLOADED IT, AND DOING SO THEY HAVE DECIDED TO GIVE IT AWAY FREELY, FOR SOMEONE TO GIVE SOMETHING AWAY FREELY OR OFFER IT TO BE FREELY TAKEN, BY ITS NATURE IMPLIES THAT THEY ASK NOTHING FOR COMPENSATION, SO TO TAKE WHAT IS BEING OFFERED FREELY IS IN NO WAY THEFT. A PERSON UPLOADING MEDIA , IS POSSIBLE THEY MAY HAVE STOLEN THE ITEM IN QUESTION, IN WHICH CASE THEY AND NO OTHER ARE GUILTY OF THEFT, ALTHOUGH THEY MAY ALSO HAVE PURCHASED THE MEDIA, IN WHICH CASE THERE IS NO THEFT , SINCE THERE PIECE OF MEDIA WAS PURCHASED AND THEY DECIDED TO OFFER THERE PURCHASED MEDIA FREELY , PERHAPS IN AN ATTEMPT TO SPREAD KNOWLEDGE CONTAINED IN THAT MEDIA TO THOSE WITHOUT MEAN TO PURCHASE SAID MEDIA FOR THEMSELVES, AGAIN THERE IS NO THEFT IN THAT CASE, ALSO THE MEDIA IN QUESTION COULD HAVE BEEN UPLOADED BY ITS CREATOR, IN WHICH CASE AGAIN THERE WOULD BE NO THEFT COMMITTED.
This reminds me of the old argument about ‘you can’t download a car’. Man what would I do if I could make a clone of a BMW just by downloading it. LOL.
thepiratebay is probably dead now because of the legalese the hosts are in now. They won’t sacrifice the remaining customers to support a group of rebels. Won’t matter. It seems every single time a pirate site dies that two are made. It’s a cancer.
IN A LOGICAL MIND IT IS NOT COMPREHENSIBLE FOR ANY ONE PERSON TO HAVE SOLE OWNERSHIP OF ANY INFORMATION WHATSOEVER, SINCE INFORMATION IS MORE LIKE AN IDEA AND CANNOT BE CONTAINED BY ANY PHYSICAL BOUNDARY,
SURE, THE PERSON THAT CAME UP WITH T, SHOULD BE CREDITED WITH BEING THE DISCOVERER OR AUTHOR IF IT WAS PREVIOUSLY UNKNOWN, BUT FROM THE POINT THAT THAT PERSON HAS MADE IT KNOWN TO OTHERS, HOW FROM THERE ON, HOW CAN THEY CLAIM SOLE OWNERSHIP OF THAT INFORMATION? IN A LOGICAL MIND, AND REALISTIC WORLD THEY CANNOT. oNCE SAIS PERSON HAS PASSED THIS INFORMATION TO ANOTHER, THAT PERSON HAS LOST CONTROL OF WHAT BECOMES OF THIS INFORMATION OR HOW IT SPREADS, DUE TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE NO LONGER THE ONLY ONE WITH THE KNOWLEDGE OF THAT INFORMATION.
Most everyone got a demonoid account
DAMN SWEDISH And all GOVERMENT!!!
THEY RUINED EVERYTHING! Well see you in purgatory in DEC 21st
I DRAG YOU DOWN TO HELL YOU GOVERMENT FREAKS
Show ME your GREED down THERE you’ll sEE!
Rest In Peace TPB
Some Torrent Will be still downloaded and have P2P Please seed
I’m Still downloading Windows Vista SP1 By Goldfish_92
SEED
This Is The End
This Is The End
WTF I PAID FOR MY INTERNET SO I COULD DOWNLOAD! FCK THESE RULES
Fuckin assholes…why people gotta be so god dam nosey..they bust our balls abt doin shyt like this but GUESS WHAT OUR GOVERMEENT AINT SO GOOD EITHEER LETTING THOSE DRUGS COME FROM CUBA AND OVER SEAAS BUST THE PEOPLE WHO USE IT AN SELL IT HEAR CONFISCATE IT AND PUT IT RIGHT BACK ON THE STREETS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE DOIN TEY JOBS…. fuckin noobs..srry people i aint crazy just they got bettea shyt to worry abt like tryna find bin lauden still…god dam our U.S. shyt goverment…
Tryin to find bin laden , lmao. I hope u really dont belive there looking for him.
If they wanted to talk to him, theyd prolly just make a phone call.
How is a car relavant to information?
And how would downloading a car be relevant even if it was possible? I car is a physical object, not an idea/information. If that is some kind of argument it is extremely weak in relation to the subject,
Torrent sites a cancer? persons with such thought processes such as that are more of a cancer to human consciousness and learning. Torrent site are one of the best ways available to send large quantities a data to a mass of people seeking it, and provide many types of information such as instructional, educational, documentary, and various other types of information that is helpful to the betterment of society, it is a shame though that so many waste it by using the site for such waste of energy such as porno, and all the mindless entertainment which is the root of the evil in this case , due to the entertainment industry’s greed and attempt at keeping themselves socially elevated above the comman public by continuing to peddle there mindless garbage and expect money for it, when in reality sites such as these also are very positive and a great tool for learning , all depends on & lies in the intention of the users. It is a tragic shame due to the greed of the entertainment industry that we have lost one of if not the best site around for knowledge seekers of all sorts, It is not just used for spreading mindless fictionalizations who’s only reason to exists are to entertain, when there is so much other information available for the betterment of the person and also possibly humanity if used properly.
In Other words It Is Extremely wrong for TPB to be closed down due to the fact that some choose to upload movies and such, when there are also many that use the site as a forum to seek knowledge, about many different subjects, and also it is used for companies to provide there software to there customers and save themselves money on having to maintain many large servers, instead, provide there software as torrents. If this site is down permanently it will be a great loss, somewhat in equality to closing down an international world library.
While the piratebay was not the most copyright friendly site, it was the best place to find episodes of tv shows old or new whether you missed it on tv or just couldnt find any other way to watch . Plus programs like Visualboy Advanced and EPSXE could run games that you owned but could not digitize yourself for a backup copy but the kind souls that would put these games up made it easy and simple. Movies 2, I could go out buy a movie and never open it because i could grab a copy from TPB. Again a backup copy and I would have an investment on what I paid for(I also bought a few movies I found on TPB). And granted yes people do abuse it and yes it was money that the companies did not make but they did not really lose money it was again money they did not make(And that is what makes them mad) So in the long run I think some things should always be done the way its supposed to be, but if the companies want to stay on top of things, monitor the site for infringements on their product and ask for it to be taken down(Youtube can do it) and not charge the site owners with the bill of estimated losses.
Lastly TPB was and will aways be the SHIT. And as longs as it can be done it will be done end of story. And I’d toast with you Vexick but I got my rum from TPB and as you can see the rum is gone.
What i think is funny is that here soon you wont even be able to sing a song outloud cause it is copyrighted! Its the same thing, if one person hears a new song and tells his friend about it, or as i do once in awhile is do karoake i am violating copyrights by singing it because i didnt ask permission from the idea maker to use it!!!
I blame the ninjas
The Pirate Bay dwn… again… Here from the Netherlands i’ve experienced some probs with it. Luckily they have said to begin again today… why are they making it so diffecult? Just put the servers in Japan.
ThatGuyInTheBack: making roms out of games you own is illegal. I know, but it is like it is.
“Intellectual Property” is theft from the public domain. The very concept is absurd, an oxymoron even, as no such property ever existed in the first place – someone merely imagined it did, then stuck their guns and government in the faces of those with less power.
Long ago, people retold stories freely, and scribes copied works freely. Bards played songs they had heard freely, without fear of jackbooted thugs claiming to represent someone who had played it previously.
It will inevitably return to that state. The only reason it was ever any different in the first place is for a brief period, due to the printing press and other products that drove the industrial revolution, scale of economy enabled some people to mass publish while startup costs kept others out of the market.
This is no longer the case, and as copyright becomes more and more of a laughable concept – ask anyone under the age of 40 their opinion on just how “wrong” copying media – we are witnessing things returning to their natural state, the way they were thru almost all of recorded history.
Copyright law is a blip in history that will pass away with the sands of time.
TKILLA0988: it’s not your government, its some countries in Europe’s government. Like the Netherlands, where a live (where they say the pirate bay wont be active anymore at the start of next month :()
And of course the swedish government. But not the US.
They dont care about that, (srry) but they only care about themselfs and war
hey richard iso hunt is still running, but it wont be long till the governments closes them down and u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i so agree with da freedom hacker!!!!!!
this is fucked up…..they need more reply support
TPB beat the shit out of the MPAA like Zune did to the iPod…
Man the most shocking part is that the PirateBay folks sold out a great, common sharing project to become millionaires. Maybe it’s part of a clever plot to make TPB last even longer (Global Gaming might have to let go the property of the site, hading it to other folks of the TPB network, while the former developpers are enjoying their millions somewhere in the Pacific), but to be non-commercial and community-based is perhaps the thing that made TPB live for so long.
MHB,
I’ve purchased my music on itunes. Today I login to find out they now have multi-tier accounts and that, because of a hard drive failure, I have to repurchase the music I had already purchased once. If I’ve already paid the licensing fee, why should I feel obligated to repay the licensing fee.
I think the point of most people is that the way they go about business is sort of like the gustapo. Whatever happened to that ole free use clause?
Maybe someone ought to check if the telephone and radio stations are paying their copyright fees to marconi & tesla family/descendants. Perhaps sue them for a few trillion dollars for copyright infringement for a change and maybe they’ll change their tune.
They basically want a black age where all media/music/thought/information is controlled, so they can make sure their copyrights are not “infringed”. So come on guys, lets slow down the progress of humanity so some rich fucks in hollywood can buy some more breast implants for their wives!!
I figured i’d be an extra smart ass and throw this in here as well:
Does this mean we have to pay newton everytime we use gravity?
this site is the most important in the world
because it would save u from spending $2000 to by “genuine” software
it doesnt matter if the shut down msn, yahoo, thedomains
BUT DONT REMOVE THE PIRATEBAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WE HAVE TO KEEP FIGHTING UNTIL ITS BACK AGAIN!
The crap movie argument people give only really stands for movies like the recent Transformers. That was a crime against maturity and sequelships.
But more to the point. I admit that I pirate media, but my only qualm is DRM. I keep an equal amount of money in a bank account to cover the cost of any media I pirate so that when an official DRM-free version comes out, I can replace all my pirated media with official media, and not lose my ability to play that media offline, on any device with enough cycles per second, outputs or pixels to handle the content.
As a direct result, when the iTunes store went DRM-Free over half that bank account disappeared in a week. I have no qualms about paying a reasonable price for music that I appreciate, as long as that is the end of the matter, no requirements that I have a permanently working internet connection, or any silly little other things like that. I like being trusted like that, it makes me trust them back.
The only things I pirate these days are high definition movies (I refuse to get Blu-Ray due to the DRM it upholds and its silly HDCP-compatible-device requirements, when my 2007 computer plays those movies fine, and will continue to play them fine without expensive upgrades) and hacks for games to stop ringing home or requiring a working internet connection. I bought the game. End of story.
If anything, The Pirate Bay represented to me a haven for DRM-free media, where one could go and join the black-market masses in their call for unrestricted media. I still feel guilty for not refunding those original media providers who’s hard work created the originals of those files I was happily torrenting, but I refuse to trust them with my money until I see that they trust me with their media.
By placing restrictions on a market you only serve to create a black market that cannot be controlled. The more restrictions the fiercer the black market. People will always find a way around DRM. People will always want things for free. People will always leech without seeding and take without giving. But if media companies can change with the market they can stem the flow of illegal torrenting.
The Pirate Bay wasn’t the only tracker people used. There are VPN networks and proxy systems people can subscribe to around the world that allow sharing of media in nigh untraceable forms. The Pirate Bay was taken down because it was the most popular and accessible. And for that we will all miss it.
Tom
Not sure how your iTunes.com account works, but mine lets me make multiple copies of all the songs, music videos and movies I’ve purchase on to multiple backup hard drives, so In case my computer take a crap, I still have it.
Also if you have an ipod and have your library on it and lose your hard drive, you can move the material from your ipod back to your library.
So the only way you can lose the material is if you haven’t backed it up properly, in which case its like anything else, leave your cell phone at the table in restaurant without cell phone insurance, your going to have to buy a new one.
iTunes.com also allows you to put the material on 5 computers during your life, so if your hard drive fails before you can de-authorized the account on that hard drive, that will count as 1 against the five and when you reload the material from your portable hard drive to your new fixed hard drive, that will be 2 uses and you still have 3 left
Iscariot
The founders will only become millionaire if the sale goes through which is looking questionable at the moment.
Without the sale, as I said in the post, 3 of the 4 already have been found to have no assets.
When you run one of the most visited sites on the net and have no assets what does that tell you when the guys running it for years have no money, no assets, nothing?
Not a very successful business model.
Sure its great for them they get plenty of love from the community of people that don’t want to pay for their music, movies, software, videos etc., but how many of them sent money to them as they requested to pay their legal bills and how many of you are going to visit them in jail.
none
Freedom
“””Intellectual Property” is theft from the public domain. The very concept is absurd, an oxymoron even, as no such property ever existed in the first place – someone merely imagined it did, then stuck their guns and government in the faces of those with less power.””
All laws are created as such aren’t they.
I mean there is no natural law that say you got to wear a seat belt, or pay your taxes. All laws are pretty much created by man and legislatures.
Copyright laws are not new.
They didn’t just come along in the last 10 years they have been around for a long time, but they have adopted to new technology.
Our industry here at thedomains.com is governed by trademark law, another pure creation of man.
However all these laws, including patent law, were created so that if you thought up a song and played it for a group of people, no one in the group could take your song, claim it as their own and not pay you for your work.
See its all about getting paid for your work.
I don’t own an ipod, I’m currently living in the third world, im lucky the electricity and internet work.
I only had 2 computers authorized (this one being the second, the first one also being this one, i guess having to reformat/reinstall counts as reauthorizing an additional computer, so I can only format 3 more times!)
I didn’t maintain backups as there was no need, I could just redownload the songs at whim (when i originally signed up). Then they go and switch it up on me. They want me to pay 0.30$ per song to ‘upgrade’ them to the second tier account. Or pay 0.99$-1.29$ per song to repurchase them.
At least if I purchase a cd (the cost of downloading 16 songs on itunes is more than the cost of a cd in a lot of cases) I would still have a copy of the cd around. But nope, im just screwed.
You have to admit, the way they’re approaching the whole situation is barbaric and so 15th century. They’re a stones throw from putting 80 year old ladies in the guillotine for downloading green day.
In the end all of humanity suffers simply because they cant come up with a business model that will survive the 21st century. Perhaps if they were to cut off all the useless dead weight (like paying cyber cops and crap to go around diluting sites like TPB with fake content, virii, etc) they would be able to live in the 21st century.
I develop open source software. I work my ass off, and give my work away for free to others in the hopes that they can correct mistakes i’ve made or make the software better. So, the whole “what if you made something and then people stole it” doesn’t really apply to me. Or millions of others like me. Not everyone in the pirate society (or people trolling this thread) are socially worthless.
Whats even worse, monsanto and other green revolution companies are now patenting life, as well as individual genes that make up the human body. And anywhere those genes go the whole organism is owned by the company. So lets say pharmacutical company A owns the patent on the breast cancer gene. If your mother gets breast cancer, are you going to be sitting here writing a post about how wonderful it is that she has to pay royalties for having breast cancer?
Perhaps you should think about the long reaching implications of the current battle (and what it means to humanity) rather than looking at its face value.
I would also be really interested in finding out if these companies that are going around charging people lude amounts of money for copyright infringement are infact infringing on others copyrights as well. Such as the example I gave with marconi/tesla and radio, telephone, radio waves, etc. Perhaps you would be willing to do a story on this sometime.
Or, maybe we could just say all of these corporations aren’t working for the public trust and revoke their corporate charters. Can I get a hip hip horray for that?
Hey MHB
You live in a slightly skewed world full of cartesian arguements that miss the point. If it was so cheap to buy the material, then most people would start to do that (after all 1$ is not a lot is it).
So why do 30k people still go to these free sites? Why do thousands watch TV, Movies, sport on P2P sites if it is so cheap to do things all nice and proper?
Answer: Because it is not so cheap as you say it is. Getting latest material costs 20-30$ or Euros, getting a set of songs (ex Iphones) at 1€ a piece soon mounts up to 20€/$. So all of a sudden your arguement falls down. Secondo, you’re missing the feel good factor of getting stuff for free! Tiertio, most people that use TPB are embracing a certain culture. Talk only of money and costs and you miss the point completely.
Get into the real world and accept these sites ’cause 1000’s use them. Adapt instead of applying old business rules to a new economy. Big co’s should do the same and use the database of people to make money. If selling TPB as a concept does not persuade you there is value there, sick to the MBA classes…
Something else I would be interested in, is if you were to collect the ip addresses of all these people commenting (specifically the engrish ones). And trace the ip addresses back to see how many are owned by either 1) cybercop type companies 2) record labels themselves. It takes a lot of effort to give something a bad face.
Tom
Its your choice to develop open source software.
You could be developing apps for the apple store and have them sell them for you.
That’s your choice.
Some people decide they want to do missionary work and help extremely poor people living in undeveloped countries, god bless them.
But those people are not going to become rich just doing that.
Money isn’t everything, if you choice to do something you love that doesn’t make any money, then that your choice and be happy with it or change your occupation
Doc
There is no value and no business model for TPB type of site.
Allowing the transfer of free legally protected material to people who don’t want to pay $1 for the material is not going to make you rich.
Your argument is that $1 per song isn’t much but I want 10,000 songs so $10,000 is a lot so it should be free.
Wow
“They didn’t just come along in the last 10 years they have been around for a long time, but they have adopted to new technology.”
You’re right here, about 15 years ago the patent office did issue this decree that “anything can be patented except for a full birth human being”. Up until this point, life was not able to be patented.
I wonder when monsanto is going to start charging not just the farmers/producers royalties for producing the food, but also the consumer at the grociery market. Hey, we have to pay them for all their hardwork in ruining our food and causing tomatoes to give people with fish allergies allergic reactions!
Tom
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Somehow I think the record companies don’t need to be commenting on something they just won.
Especially when you read the comments are realize that less than 10 of the them are written without profanity, 5 or more spelling mistakes, gramatically correct and make any arguement other than
“TPB rules man, bring it back because the world sucks without it and its the only reason I even have the internet” etc etc
“Some people decide they want to do missionary work and help extremely poor people living in undeveloped countries, god bless them.”
And some people decide they want to sell their soul to the devil and take 600,000$ from some guy for downloading 13 songs. I guess this is ok too.
I don’t want to, and never will sell apps on the iphone. I have considered doing this before there are several **services** i would like to offer. But selling the actual code itself IMO is just wrong. Infact, 99% of my income is from delivering a service to a customer. I make much more from this than I ever could selling my intellectual property.
Infact, I’ve tried to sell closed source programs before and they flop big time.
And you are correct, money is not everything, infact its nothing. Money is just a medium for gathering resources to meet your needs. Why do you need more than you need? Do people need to live in huge 10million USD houses? no.
Think about what could be done if these resources were directed at lets say, building a moon base, or an underwatter depressurized high speed maglev train between asia & us & eu.
And ontop of all of these arguments. You have the people who actually produce the music (the content creators) sitting there also bitching at the same people we’re bitching at saying they’re not getting enough money per album sold. Of the 20$ spent on a cd, probably less than a few $ at most make it to the actual music/video producer.
I think a good example of this was the old R&B band TLC who ended up making 30,000$ a year (between all 3 of them, meaning 10,000$ a piece) while their album was platinum++.
Missed the point, MHB.
There are thousands of sites whose bus models rely on the fact they want people to visit, all legit high profile, big name sites. Why? cause they sell the access to these people. And you suggest there is no bus model for these. As for value, go back to the book kiddo and check what it means or perhaps tell that to Youtube who sold their business for 3bn if I remember correctly and to some unknown business, I recall.
Again, make the arguement into a bus model and you fail to see the reason so many people go to these sites, share their knowledge and time and let others have access for free. If co’s were not so scared of losing their old economy business, they would catch up. Just because you can buy songs on the net does not stop people buying CD’s. does it?
Check out some stats in the US (ok so their culture is diff to Eu, agreed..). Most people who download films for free, end up buying a DVD within 1 month. Its a culture and mind set, get out of your box and maybe you can see the reasons…
tpb is back…..
Well, they did get a fabulous t-shirt.
I guess someone got it wrong again and should check their sources before posting BS stories.
PB is ALIVE & KICKING and NOONE has gone to prison as an appeal is pending. And in Sweden pending can be a long, long time. 🙂
LONG LIVE PB!
Doc
Nothing wrong with building up traffic on a legit site and then selling it.
However TPB was not a legit site as the founders have already been convicted and sentenced to jail!!!
The founders of YouTube.com which did not allow mp3 files to be downloaded did not go to jail and cashed out.
Different don’t you think.
Maybe it has something to do with allowing people to download and thereby use copyrighted material in perpetuity rather than just watch it?
UPDATE
“””The U.K. government has made new proposals that would see Internet users disconnected if they are suspected of illicit file-sharing. “””
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10317001-93.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=News-DigitalMedia
Awesome, so you don’t need to be convicted anymore? It’s like the abu ghraib of file sharing.
“If we think you did something we’ll send you to a torture camp where we’ll beat out of you whatever we already think you did”
Tom
They have already been convicted and sentenced.
They had a trial, they had attorneys representing them and now they are appealing.
1 year in jail and $3.6 Million in fines, unless they win the appeal
Sorry,
I was referring to the link in your last reply regarding the UK. Not TPB case.
“The U.K. government has made new proposals that would see Internet users disconnected if they are *****suspected***** of illicit file-sharing.“
So, if you live in the UK, your internet gets cut off, and you know you paid the bill… Better take a blow torch to your hard drive. (The outter casing of a hard drive takes awhile to cut through but the platters inside the casing melt like butter)
Yesterday, as all day I could not get to TPB, and all of the trackers related to TPB in the torrents I’m downloading right now were all offline, I have to admit I was SLIGHLY concerned.
However, I remembered that after that 2006 “raid’ instigated by the US MPAA, the owners of TPB stated that they were ready- At a few hours notice, to totally UP the whole shebang and set it up somewhere else.
YESTERDAY was the ultimate test of this- Shut down at Black Internet, started right back up on dcpnetworks.net.
This fist is up the butt of the MPAA!
Its back up yay………………….
@INFORMATION IS FOR ALL–I know i was being a smart ass…lol…
@Hacker46644–Yea i kinda fig…it was gay they locked up those guys in my country for the T.P.B.
this sucks!
ITS THE END OF THE WORLD (of torrents)
RIP to the best website ever made.
okay…. maybe i spoke to soon!
thank god!!!
UPDATE
ThePirateBay.org is back up and running on a new ISP
We will Keep you updated
YES! The piratebay is up again!!!
^^
Honestly, you guys should all get real. Piracy is not good for anybody in the long run. Maybe go outside and get some fresh air?
bit torrents are here to stay, shutting down one site will never stop us, the media industry will never rob us blind again
“Honestly, you guys should all get real. Piracy is not good for anybody in the long run. Maybe go outside and get some fresh air?”
No Piracy generally isnt good. Free Information sharing Is very good tho, and should continue to be practiced by all who are able.
UPDATE
Well Shakira is in your corner
http://www.popeater.com/2009/10/21/shakira-illegal-downloading/